National Risk Register/National Resilience Update - Nothing new to us.

[slowworm]

I think the reality is that most look at things like the Risk Register, follow things in the news and decide that they are probably a bit exposed.

I'm curious to know if that's the case. I've had a few discussions recently with people who've seen the latest government advice and are the types of people who don't have 3 days worth of basic supplies. After the news dies down I doubt they will change.

Those that I know who would cope haven't done so because of any advice or news, if anything going against the news over the last few years such as the hype around a cashless society.

I've tended to be fairly prepared due to personal experience and the fact I hate going shopping!

 

[GeraldTheBonsai]

I'm curious to know if that's the case. I've had a few discussions recently with people who've seen the latest government advice and are the types of people who don't have 3 days worth of basic supplies. After the news dies down I doubt they will change.

Those that I know who would cope haven't done so because of any advice or news, if anything going against the news over the last few years such as the hype around a cashless society.

I've tended to be fairly prepared due to personal experience and the fact I hate going shopping!

I tend not to hide the fact that I have several preps in place, in particular solar generation. Over the last 6 months or so I've had a fair few conversation with people along the lines of how would they go about setting up a basic system, or what sort of things do they need to have in the ev ent of an emergency. So I think that there is a general raised level of awareness about the subject.

 

[Sooty22]

Maybe it's because they have played and watched Fallout. That universe is fun. If they watched Threads instead of Fallout maybe they might not want a total collapse.

Oh dear... now, that's a movie I don't want to watch again

 

[Sooty22]

I'm curious to know if that's the case. I've had a few discussions recently with people who've seen the latest government advice and are the types of people who don't have 3 days worth of basic supplies. After the news dies down I doubt they will change.

Those that I know who would cope haven't done so because of any advice or news, if anything going against the news over the last few years such as the hype around a cashless society.

I've tended to be fairly prepared due to personal experience and the fact I hate going shopping!

Yip. Instead of laughing at, and then -when something goes wrong- blaming preppers for hoarding, and claiming it's their fault for not seeing any bog roll on the shelves, they should only blame themselves for not keeping any (as well as anything else), and realise preppers actually did them a great service by having all they need and not joining their very long queue for whatever it is they demand.

All the government asked is really to have enough stuff stored to ensure not everyone will hit the shops in a panic, and allow the system time to recover from some mild disturbance, and possibly allow it to deal better with the more vulnerable rather than having to waste time with people who were perfectly capable of preparing something in advance.

It still baffles me to think there are people (who can, not talking about those who can't) who have very very little stored up.

 

[Pattree]

Surely it depends on what happens after the 72 hours.

If everything goes back to normal or even if there is just enough to go round and it’s available, then a couple of packets of biscuits and maybe a couple of cans are enough to survive hunger for 72 hours. Being hungry isn’t starving.

Layers of clothes and blankets will keep you warm but if you suffer clinical cold such as Raynards disease you will need something warm under the blankets with you.

If necessary, your toilet cistern holds enough water for two for 72 hours. Thirsty isn’t dehydration.

No communication for 72 hours isn’t a problem if it is restored after that.

Those of us on meds tend to keep at least couple of weeks ahead of “empty”.

The older ones amongst us probably know this already.

 

[slowworm]

Surely it depends on what happens after the 72 hours.

I think the current advice is to try and keep people at home for up to 3 days to stop them causing more problems whilst the authorities get things under control.

After the 3 days real preppers will dust off thier copies of the cannibal cookbook and all bets are off.

 

[Pattree]

That might be an explanation but surely: most of us “survive” for 168 hours (week) between shopping trips anyway and have enough left over for another 72 without giving any thought to preparedness as such.
The two of us couldn’t eat everything in the freezer in 72 hours (presuming that we could cook it.) We’d be giving it away before It defrosted.

 

[Stew]

That might be an explanation but surely: most of us “survive” for 168 hours (week) between shopping trips anyway and have enough left over for another 72 without giving any thought to preparedness as such.
The two of us couldn’t eat everything in the freezer in 72 hours (presuming that we could cook it.) We’d be giving it away before It defrosted.

What basis are you working on that most households only do a weekly food shop? I know plenty of people that barely hold anything in the house and just food shop more often.

 

[Pattree]

I don’t know any
But then I live in a village.

 

[slowworm]

That might be an explanation but surely: most of us “survive” for 168 hours (week) between shopping trips anyway and have enough left over for another 72 without giving any thought to preparedness as such.
The two of us couldn’t eat everything in the freezer in 72 hours (presuming that we could cook it.) We’d be giving it away before It defrosted.

I don't think many could survive without mains water or electric for 3 days, I know our freezer would be scrap, I know others with a decent pantry would run out of drinking water. As for food plenty of people seem to need to nip to the shop every day and I remember a news story that said quite a few people don't have a fridge or some method of cooking.

The fact I could probably last for several months without going shopping is irrelevant, the advice is not aimed at me but those who wouldn't last a day.

 

[grainweevil]

Having had about five days without electricity after storm Goretti back in January, I think even genuinely prepared people may be surprised how much it gets to you once it goes over two or three days.

 

[Pattree]

We had five days without power when two pylons went over one winter in the 80’s.

We had open fires and a Rayburn. We managed quite well. Also the land line was the independent 50 volt system that has recently been scrapped.

We probably wash far more than we need to - or did when I was a child.

 

[HorseGuy]

After the 3 days real preppers will dust off thier copies of the cannibal cookbook and all bets are off.

I already have some 'Free Food' signs painted up and ready to be hung out in front of the spike pits down range from the snipers nest.

 

[TeeDee]

Sadly , I think the preppy types that do yearn for a total collapse ( and I do think they are a minority ) see it as a life restart , ie unhappy with the mundane nature of their real world life and want a scenario where they can have a " I told you so " moment and magically / fantastically become their very own imaginary hero as no doubt the apocalyptic fiction they consume idolises.

Wannabe lord humongous.

What I do see on some forums however a massive amount of very concerned new to prepping mothers and suburban family units really rather concerned about the near future.

Hardly surprising considering the sabre rattling and pre-klaxon rhetoric that is going on currently

 

[TeeDee]

We had five days without power when two pylons went over one winter in the 80’s.

We had open fires and a Rayburn. We managed quite well. Also the land line was the independent 50 volt system that has recently been scrapped.

We probably wash far more than we need to - or did when I was a child.

I used to have Sunday scheduled in for my weekly bath as a child .

How times , and standards change

 

[Woody girl]

We had five days without power when two pylons went over one winter in the 80’s.

We had open fires and a Rayburn. We managed quite well. Also the land line was the independent 50 volt system that has recently been scrapped.

We probably wash far more than we need to - or did when I was a child.

Well, with the gov, trying to ban open fires and wood/coal burners, most will be sitting pretty in their all electric homes without heat, water, cooking ability, mobile phone connection, or even a landline.
Some improvement eh?

I shower once a week Sunday morning, and strip wash morning and sometimes evening too, if I've become dirty and sweaty doing my garden.
I smells of roses as I use rose scented products.
Can't stand it when I walk past people smelling like a lush shop, or brute commercial, and i can smell it for the next hundred yards!
Happens more with the younger generation I think. I realy don't want to smell someone for ten minutes after they've walked past me thank you!
What's wrong with smelling normal, ?
A light scent up close is fine, the rest is awful!

 

[Falstaff]

And whats wrong with Sundays? Weekly whether you needed it or not.

 

[Woody girl]

And whats wrong with Sundays? Weekly whether you needed it or not.

Saturday night used to be the day you got a bath, to go out on the town all sparkly clean or maybe be clean for church the next morning.
Nobody can afford a Saturday night out now, and few go to church, so, my question is...why have a shower at all?

 

[Pattree]

About twelve years ago my wife asked me “When did you last have a bath?”

I’m reasonably self confident and happily told her that it must have been fifteen years previously so well over twenty years ago.

Out went the bath.

In came a walk in shower.

 

[Pattree]

I am working (very slowly) on a “shower” that runs from a washing up bowl to a perforated collar round my neck. It’s worked with one foot in the bowl and the other on dry land. I’m also looking at making some kind of coronet for including my hair.

The big problem is a suitable pump that doesn’t mean you lift your foot up in the air. The whole motivation is an all over wash for people who don’t bend.