Licensing for Knife Sellers or Importers

[Pattree]

I think it’s well worth wrapping up this thread. There is no useful information coming from it.

I’m not a mod, I’m just bored.

Edited to add:
@Kiri
Thanks for bringing this potential legislation to our attention. Sorry it’s degenerated.
Pat.

 

[Wayne]

As a mod im loath to lock threads unless they break the forum rules and become abusive. This one has managed to skirt the edges of political discourse and statistics without stepping across the line. It will inevitably become just another thread that has run its day.

 

[Pattree]

That’s fine with me @Wayne

l know where the ignore button is, I should have simply used it some posts back and not complained.

 

[chimpy leon]

I think it’s well worth wrapping up this thread. There is no useful information coming from it.

I’m not a mod, I’m just bored.

Edited to add:
@Kiri
Thanks for bringing this potential legislation to our attention. Sorry it’s degenerated.
Pat.

You don’t really need to share how entertained or informed you are, if you get bored with something then simply look elsewhere. The world is full of endless possibilities.

 

[Nice65]

More to the point, I hope everyone has used the online form to suggest that a person selling the occasional Spyderco ought not to have to pay a licence fee?

Ignore the bits that ask for your address or email if you want, you can advance through without filling them in.

 

[TeeDee]

Problem is, you have not expressed any opinion (at least not one that I can understand) so one can not agree or disagree with you.

Not sure what your situation is in Finland with regards to 'opinion & speech' enforcement in person and on line but here things have changed in the last 10 years or so , I can understand if people feel a need to being intentionally ambiguous - which does tend to lead to a few things with regards to subject matter or opinions being considered/discussed or challenged and changed.

The last part is important.

 

[Herman30]

Not sure what your situation is in Finland with regards to 'opinion & speech' enforcement in person and on line but here things have changed in the last 10 years or so

I have read some news about someone in UK writing something about refugees on Facebook and that made the police come for a "social call".
In Finland we are not that far gone. As far as I know one can get a visit from police if one makes postings on social media containing suspicious postings posing with guns.

 

[Chris]

I have read some news about someone in UK writing something about refugees on Facebook and that made the police come for a "social call".
In Finland we are not that far gone. As far as I know one can get a visit from police if one makes postings on social media containing suspicious postings posing with guns.

For inciting hatred and violence by suggesting people burn down a hotel full of people. I say this because your comment mentions a specific situation and there is important context, and the other replies on this theme have been let stand.

It’s never been illegal to talk about facts and figures regarding race. It’s illegal to incite hatred or violence towards a specific race.

I can’t see how a conversation going down this route can remain non political, given the ‘freedom of speech is dead’ narrative is very much a politically motivated one.

 

[Chris]

More to the point, I hope everyone has used the online form to suggest that a person selling the occasional Spyderco ought not to have to pay a licence fee?

Ignore the bits that ask for your address or email if you want, you can advance through without filling them in.

Have done indeed. Hopefully they actually listen as it’d be ridiculous to restrict this.

 

[William_Montgomery]

I have read some news about someone in UK writing something about refugees on Facebook and that made the police come for a "social call".
In Finland we are not that far gone. As far as I know one can get a visit from police if one makes postings on social media containing suspicious postings posing with guns.

We tend to conflate race and culture a lot in this country, which makes it very difficult to talk about, question or criticise cultural practices/traits/attitudes without it being perceived as an attack against racial groups as a whole. It's hard to navigate, both legally and socially.

 

[Herman30]

For inciting hatred and violence....

I did not know this detailed about the case. I only knew someone wrote something.

 

[Chris]

I did not know this detailed about the case. I only knew someone wrote something.

You probably mentioned it not knowing this to be the case, but it's a really politicised issue over here so it's kind of impossible to discuss these sort of specifics within the forum rules. I don't think it's really relevant to the situation here - the government itself produces statistics by race and the Met Police have a task force entirely set up based on this premise, so as long as people are being civil and not just being overtly discriminatory towards people because of their skin colour I don't really see how it would be illegal.

The main point is looking at corellation not being the same as causation. Certain crime is prevelant in areas where people happen to have certain racial characteristic, but this doesn't mean it's because of those racial characteristics, if that makes sense.

 

[TLM]

The main point is looking at corellation not being the same as causation.

While that is true in a wide general sense, there are situations where this maxim has to be handled very carefully. It is not exactly uncommon for correlation and causation coincide perfectly.

 

[Pattree]

Indeed. Here’s one that I was taught as part of an Understanding Statistics module:

There was at that time, a correlation to two decimal places, between incidences of hay fever - as it was then called - in the Southern counties and the number of passengers disembarking from the channel ferries (No tunnel then).

“Evidently” this was an attempt by foreigners (unspecified) to destabilise Britain by bringing bags of ‘Continental’ pollen over in their luggage.

This is the scariest pumpkin you’ll ever see: