Online Food Shopping

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BBQ season is upon us. :)


As TeeDee correctly mentioned, BBQ season has started! So I was able to try some of the Dorset Meat Company ribeye.

It was really nice. Good beefy flavour, the meat had that nice, dark hue to it rather than bright radioactive red.

Cooked over charcoal to medium. Two more steaks in the freezer now, ready for our next batch of sunshine.

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Still find these 'best before dates' such an odd concept. Nice to see a company ignoring them.

I could never get the best before versus american expiry..

Ive seen quiet a few american survival videos on YT where people say to through out expired emdications every so often, ridiculous.
ive got iodine straws in my kit...iodine is practically eternal...

some out of date medication is actually better than new. take germolene, theyve remoevd the active inredient thats the analgesic and replaced with a weaker one, so older germolene is more effectove, ive got a tube 10 years out of date. germoloids still has the ingredient that germolene used to have so thats more effictive.

same with sudafed, theyve nerfed it because of the whole breakin bad use of it.


some food does go bad more than otehrs , but more of a case of going rancid...had some nido that did that when it was opened... but then unopened was fine 6 years past its date.
or moisture getting in because of microtears...my koolaid clumped after a while


the most extreme i think was some dextrose tablets i had knocking around in a kit....they were absolutely fine after carrying them around for .......34 years!!!!



The main problem withe the cheapfood website and simialr is the biscuits...thhey tend to get bashed about. but you can get some really good bargains, you have to constantly check as the stock rotates a lot.

i got some hand sanitizer....25p for 500ml bottle...works great as fuel for my esbit stove...not quite the heat output of dragongel i expect...but so much cheaper.....
 
I've never used online food shopping as per as shopping list online ( By that I mean I've used and abused Hellofresh and the like but they are meal delivery services in my mind ) - but I like the idea as shopping in person... with people.... No. Thank you Vicar.


So are they quite easy to use? Do you get much in the way of bad substitutions ?
or Veg and Fruit that look like they've been smuggled into the country and endured much pain?
 
Well to be fair, wholefoodsonline and thespicecupboard, and the like, are mostly sellers of dried foods.

Fresh fruit and veg is fine if delivered by the supermarkets (or if you're lucky as we are and have a Friday night tattie van (he sells other veggies, eggs, and yoghurt too) from one of the local-ish farms, or a Greengrocer who delivers. I can recommend both and would suggest trying to find something local.

The usual is to check out the milk delivery folks, and they'll know who else delivers fresh foods. The milk lads deliver twice a week, and they do sell extras, like eggs, butter, cottage cheese, cream, fresh yoghurt, orange juice.

We have The Wee Pittenweem Fish Van too. Comes round every Tuesday from Fife.
Fresh food deliveries are normal in much of the country where there's enough population, and people at home, to make it worthwhile.
Oranges for the juice apart, it's all home grown, usually from local farms and dairies.
 
I've never used online food shopping as per as shopping list online ( By that I mean I've used and abused Hellofresh and the like but they are meal delivery services in my mind ) - but I like the idea as shopping in person... with people.... No. Thank you Vicar.


So are they quite easy to use? Do you get much in the way of bad substitutions ?
or Veg and Fruit that look like they've been smuggled into the country and endured much pain?

I’ve never had issues with Ocado, very rarely any substitutions and you can send stuff back at delivery if you don’t want their offered item.
 
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Personally I would never used a food delivery sevice, for basic groceries, the cost to delivery, my wife needs to inspect every egg and every bitof veg , and then substitutions, not worth it.

online food shopping for dry goods, thats completley different
just bought a bag of sucralose powder, make up in to an eye dropper, one bag lasts several years at a cost of about £3

let alone things like dried yeast, bran, molk powder, TVP, whole host of other things.....

places liek wholefoodsonline make a huge difference with current shrinkflationn and downgrade in food quality....
 
Maybe we need a list of online shops of good food, and stuff like the yeast, salts, (I make my own tofu) and useful household chemicals, too ?

While I mind, because I've just bought 2kgs....Sosmix :)
https://sosmix.com for recipe ideas.

This is the pantry and camp staple veggie burger/sausage/patty mix.

It will happily take other veggies, seasoning (chilli if you like, but makes a great herby one too with Rosemary) and will mould around a stick to make a sausage on a stick for the kids (even big ones :) ) to cook over a campfire....and no worries about keeping meat 'fresh'.
Just add water, stir, let it sit for something over five minutes, mould as you like, and cook :)
 
Personally I would never used a food delivery sevice, for basic groceries, the cost to delivery, my wife needs to inspect every egg and every bitof veg , and then substitutions, not worth it.

online food shopping for dry goods, thats completley different
just bought a bag of sucralose powder, make up in to an eye dropper, one bag lasts several years at a cost of about £3

let alone things like dried yeast, bran, molk powder, TVP, whole host of other things.....

places liek wholefoodsonline make a huge difference with current shrinkflationn and downgrade in food quality....
On the flip side, I think paying the small fee for someone to go round the shop, pick it all and drop it to me is an absolute bargain. I went for a few bits today and it was such a waste of my time trying to find the few bits. Substitutions are minimal these days for us.
 
On the flip side, I think paying the small fee for someone to go round the shop, pick it all and drop it to me is an absolute bargain. I went for a few bits today and it was such a waste of my time trying to find the few bits. Substitutions are minimal these days for us.

It depends on whether you have to pay for parking, fuel
whether you buy things on offer...whether you need to check vegetable integrity

ive seen people pay for a taxi just to go to the local tesco
in that situation, for the elderly especially, it makes sense...

some elderly people especially once theyve got a habit they cant chage even if price goes up..

helped an elderly person get set up for tesco online....he bought some fish, blue riband biscuits and some squash and it was over £50....he does a shop every week, wont stock up..and so paid the extra for the tesco delivery service yearly....so expesnive compared to Aldi....



people have been paying for food delivery for over 100 years...

my wife would go nuts if she couldnt browse the food isles...
we only get groceries at 8am anyway so theres no quees and usuually only a couple of otehr peole in the shops...
 
We didn't pay for the Grocer, the Greengrocer or the Butcher, to deliver. I look on supermarket deliveries as just a modern take on that......and the milk boys and the tattie van, well you can see what you buy when they bring the goods to your door. The fish van you get to choose.
 
Surely even if one sets these up for predictable standard staples you know you use over the course of a month - lets says thats your core requirements - predictable , standard fairly fungible , it then leaves a far smaller list of items to be be picked up and scrutinised in person - fruit, veg, fresh meat - which all tends to be in the same locations around the perimeter of a super market.

It maybe just my brain but I do find supermarkets somewhat triggering , too much variety of stuff over too many aisles that can be moved or relocated at the whim of a marketing entity or seasonal change.

I don't know if supermarkets offer maps connected to those little hand hold scanners - ( never used one , don't intend too ) but having an ability to type in what I want to find and it tell me in what aisle it is would be beneficial to saving time.

And thats it - I want to spend the least amount of time wandering around a supermarket. If I do have too to do so , I want my list as small, specific and limited as possible.
 
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And thats it - I want to spend the least amount of time wandering around a supermarket. If I do have too to do so , I want my list as small, specific and limited as possible.

Supermarket pychology....

the fact that they keep rearranging is to make you wander past areas and search teh shelves, tereby impulse buying otehr things that you dont need

Having instore bakeries isnt to make fresh bread...the aroma of the baked goods is to make people hungry and thereby buy more...

The loss leaders at christmas i approve of....5p vegetables to get you in to there store..we just visit each one, buy vegetables and move on..

Then theres christmas eve food offers...some of the ebst of the year

the potatoes bought chirstmas lasts till april...

the otehr year bought £60 of beef for about £10...that lasted for beef stews and roasts for well over 18 months

i hate tesco and waitrose...everythings expensive...10 types of baked bean...what a waste of shelf space....

everywhere they want you to buy preprocessed junk food rather than the ingredients, and get in to the habit of it, and now everythings more expensive...

when i was at university in 1993, a lot of students had a budget of £30 a week for food...and they found that difficult as they wrent used to budgeting....even with food increase my wife and I spend £30 a week for the 2 of us +cat

but ive got many clients who spend vats amounts and a lot of it is they cant budget, buy preprocessed, dont buy thimgs on offer. my parents couldnt udnerstand the loss leader....they buy food every couple of days from local spa, never stock up.
At the start of covid i asked them have they stocked up...oh yes plenty they said...turns out meant 7 days worth "but we always get food from the local shop"
they buy from a local farm shop to give more money for milk to the farmers

but a bit like food delovery vans...really you are supporting the people directly of they dont charge...could be better food, but not the cheapest....
 
I do think consideration needs to be made for storage space. We only have a very small amount of freezer and pantry space in our small new build, which means stocking up for a long time isn’t so easy.

I definitely spend too much money on groceries though, and am trying to fix that. Mostly by being much more disciplined on wastage, as I am a good cook and being inventive/cooking from scratch isn’t the issue.

I definitely suffer from “Oooh, shiny thing” syndrome with food as well, as I find new/different things quite exciting to try.
 
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helped an elderly person get set up for tesco online....he bought some fish, blue riband biscuits and some squash and it was over £50....he does a shop every week, wont stock up..and so paid the extra for the tesco delivery service yearly....so expesnive compared to Aldi....
That's not the delivery fault, that's just the products cosen.
Surely even if one sets these up for predictable standard staples you know you use over the course of a month - lets says thats your core requirements - predictable , standard fairly fungible , it then leaves a far smaller list of items to be be picked up and scrutinised in person - fruit, veg, fresh meat - which all tends to be in the same locations around the perimeter of a super market.

It maybe just my brain but I do find supermarkets somewhat triggering , too much variety of stuff over too many aisles that can be moved or relocated at the whim of a marketing entity or seasonal change.

I don't know if supermarkets offer maps connected to those little hand hold scanners - ( never used one , don't intend too ) but having an ability to type in what I want to find and it tell me in what aisle it is would be beneficial to saving time.

And thats it - I want to spend the least amount of time wandering around a supermarket. If I do have too to do so , I want my list as small, specific and limited as possible.
absolutely. I want to be in and out.

Tesco used to have the details of what item was on what shelf - really handy when you couldn’t find something. It was through an app and store specific. The pickers had the info so might as well let the customers have it too.

It’s long gone - probably because they don’t want you to be able to get in and out.

I spend less by shopping online. I’m not worried about the quality of veg that turns up. It’s all acceptable. If there ever is something dodgy, it gets sent back or removed later.
 
I definitely spend too much money on groceries though, and am trying to fix that. Mostly by being much more disciplined on wastage, as I am a good cook and being inventive/cooking from scratch isn’t the issue.

I do think my own experience that tends to be created due to a lack of planning - so now I try to have a rotating routine of over a month , 4 days a week out of the 7 knowing what we be cooked or eaten in advance.
For variety its not the same 4 day meals over the same 4 days every week - but the 4 days replicates over the next month - so a bigger cycle -so week 1 "X" Meals , week 2 , " Y" Meals , week 3 , " Z " Meals etc - this allows for longer term planning but retaining variety so not every Friday is a fish day etc.

The 3 days off the plan allow for takeaways , variety or 'shall I cook this tonight ?' type things which I think we need for human fulfilment - creative license and variety.

even at a 4/3 ratio split over the week it minimises food waste by half at least.

Just an idea.




So I found a comfortable compromise between cooking how I like and preset planned cooking -


https://bushcraftuk.com/community/threads/hello-fresh-gousto-menu-subscription-services.166890/
 
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