Uk legal EDC what you carrying
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Leatherman charge tti
It's not a knife, it's a multitool. As i am male, it's my god defined duty to fix things.
That is my reason officer
+1!
Although I have retired my TTi "for best" and now carry another alu type charge instead. But I am a Joiner midweek so no-one cares if there is a pouch with something sharp hanging from my Snickers trousers but also I am so used to having and using it everyday that I am lost without and I do chance that being an Angler, Archer, outdoorsman or whatever you like to call yourself I should always "have reasonable cause"
I always have a slippy with me too, Boker XS for work (cheap, solid and great in the hand) Alox farmer when outdoors and "doing" - the other tools come in all the time and then I take out my UKPK if I am feeling posh or want to impress the chicks
It's been a long while since I've had a regular EDC as I have little purpose for one on a day to day basis outside my home (unless I'm out doing something specific and then I'll generally carry the right tool for the task). I'm old enough that I used to carry a penknife to school every day and in my last job I used to carry a multitool with me everywhere as having something sharp that also had pliers/screwdriver etc was handy. I do miss having an EDC but prefer fixed or lockable blades so just don't bother with an EDC.
If I'm knocking about at home, I generally have my little Gerber Ripstop close to hand. Great for packages, cutting paracord, opening packs of biccies, etc. Wish I could use it as an EDC but it locks so I can't.
The knives I carry for other hobbies (climbing, fishing, river cleanups) are either lockers or fixed blades although carried securely in a pack when travelling and seldom worn on my belt
If I'm knocking about at home, I generally have my little Gerber Ripstop close to hand. Great for packages, cutting paracord, opening packs of biccies, etc. Wish I could use it as an EDC but it locks so I can't.
The knives I carry for other hobbies (climbing, fishing, river cleanups) are either lockers or fixed blades although carried securely in a pack when travelling and seldom worn on my belt
gerber obsisian.. 3" ish blade 2 screwdrivers and a reliable detente, been in my pocket most days for the last 3 years
2 screwdrivers and a reliable detente, been in my pocket most days for the last 3 years
I carry a black one of these
It's a bit of fun - needed a good sharpen when I got it but it does the job.
It's a bit of fun - needed a good sharpen when I got it but it does the job.
Leatherman charge tti
It's not a knife, it's a multitool. As i am male, it's my god defined duty to fix things.
That is my reason officer
+1
Although my charge Tti i find to heavy for every day carrying so i have a Skeletool CX for mosst days and the Tti in my dog walking bag.
Knife laws in Greece are weird, my understanding is apart from a flick or butterfly knife you can carry pretty much anything, but if the cops stop you then you must have a convincing reason for having it and if self defence is mentioned they'll nail your bottom to the nearest phone pole.
I do still carry my Skeletool CX round with when i'm back over in the UK though.
To be honest i've not been searched by a cop since i as a teenager (now 42) so the chances of a cop stopping me ad wanting to search me are pretty slim, if he does then i'll just empty my first aid kit out first then the LM.
The first aid kit should cancel out the knife in my logic
For some odd reason i can't remember a snapped a pic of what i usually carry a while ago, it's still pretty much the same now, except i have a Zebralight SC600 in the bag now as well.
Sorry, but I don't think that's realistic. The law in the UK is a complex mish-mash of statute and case law, and even the judges and lawyers don't know all of it. Expecting a street copper to know the ins and outs of it all is asking a bit much. However... if they get it wrong, say by not knowing details of the Criminal Justice Act 1988, then we should expect the system to sort that out before court time gets wasted - usually by a trip to see the nice desk sergeant. Wrongful arrest can end up being pretty expensive.
The aspect if law as the police would apply is not so complex that a well paid professional could not be expected to know.
Policing, like health, social care, etc us a vocation not a job.
If there's something you don't know that you need to know in the execution of your duty. It's your duty to learn it
Policing, like health, social care, etc us a vocation not a job.
If there's something you don't know that you need to know in the execution of your duty. It's your duty to learn it
UK law is very deliberately worded so as to be 'woolly'. It allows for the circumstances to be taken into account. So 'the law' isn't black and white.
I'm not sure case law is applicable to day to day policing. Statutory acts are generally not that woolly unless knowingly misapplied, for example, "its illegal to photograph a police officer", "its illegal to be naked in public", "the police have the right to stop and search without specific intelligence at midnight, midweek, ten miles away from the nearest football club."
Or, "we won't arrest the perp in a domestic violence incident unless the victim press charges," "its not in the public interest to arrest someone being threatening to healthcare staff as they are public workers and should have a higher tolerance of abusive language than the general public", "my warrant card overrides the DPA"
I'm not a copper nor a lawyer but I have near daily interaction with them from civvy staff, PCSO, PC, custody staff through to Inspectors.
Some have excellent knowledge, attitude and apparent interpretation of how the law is applied
So how come its only some and not most?
I guess we have different expectations and experiences of them. I dont think it unreasonable to expect them to be experts in the laws the police have our consent to enforce
But I'll happily agree to disagree
Or, "we won't arrest the perp in a domestic violence incident unless the victim press charges," "its not in the public interest to arrest someone being threatening to healthcare staff as they are public workers and should have a higher tolerance of abusive language than the general public", "my warrant card overrides the DPA"
I'm not a copper nor a lawyer but I have near daily interaction with them from civvy staff, PCSO, PC, custody staff through to Inspectors.
Some have excellent knowledge, attitude and apparent interpretation of how the law is applied
So how come its only some and not most?
I guess we have different expectations and experiences of them. I dont think it unreasonable to expect them to be experts in the laws the police have our consent to enforce
But I'll happily agree to disagree
Fact-if it's under 3" and is not a locking blade.....you need not have ANY reason for carrying it.
The only offences involve being on school premises or if you have an intention to use it as an offensive weapon.
By law, a knife like this is exempt from any "bladed article" offences....
Your SAK is COMPLETELY legal ;-)
The only offences involve being on school premises or if you have an intention to use it as an offensive weapon.
By law, a knife like this is exempt from any "bladed article" offences....
Your SAK is COMPLETELY legal ;-)
Define on school premises please - is it 'picking the kids up from school, leave the EDC at home' ?
A biro is illegal if your intention is to use it as an offensive weapon... as is a stick of candy floss. The article itself isn't the illegal bit though, it's the intention to use it for an illegal act.
Though my leatherman is completely illegal due to it locking
Though I suspect more knife crime has been and will be committed with a sub 3" folder than with a leatherman.
Hence my earlier statement the law is stoopid and some coppers misapplication of clear laws is equally so
Though I suspect more knife crime has been and will be committed with a sub 3" folder than with a leatherman.
Hence my earlier statement the law is stoopid and some coppers misapplication of clear laws is equally so
No! It's not! It's illegal to CARRY it without a good reason. If it were a balisong, a punch blade or a self opener THEN it would be completely illegal. The law can be black and white when it wants to be
Dreadhead
Bushcrafter through and through
I carry a black one of these
It's a bit of fun - needed a good sharpen when I got it but it does the job.
somebody correct me if im wrong! but isnt that classed as a concealed knife and therfore illegal? im sure youd get in a fair bit of trouble for that?
