Woodland Custodianship

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slowworm

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See that thick ivy stem ? if you cut a bit off it and split it, that'll dry out well and it makes a great hearth board for a firebow :)
I've been wondering about this. I have loads of ivy and some large trees down covered in the stuff so I'll be cutting it off whilst logging the trees.

At what size does it become useful? I have some ivy stems probably 6" diameter but most around 3". Would that make a good hearth and does ivy split or does it need sawing?

Also, is there any demand for it? Not to sell but if I have several boards made up I could pass them onto someone who uses them.
 
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Toddy

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I find it splits fairly easily...if it's fresh. Let it dry out and it's a pain to get it apart. A bit like fomes that way.
Three / four inches wide is ample. I am using a piece just now as a hearth board and it's so narrow that I can really only use one side of it, but it's still good :)

I have no idea about demand, I think most folks would struggle to get their hands on ivy stems thick enough to use like this, but I'm pretty sure you'd have takers if offered.

I think we all end up trying different combinations, different timbers and tools and methods. We like to know and it's a good excuse to try making fire :)
 
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Finished the fencing on Tuesday and just in time as no one is moving about now. Dare I say it but I could do with a drop of rain down now.

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Cuttings have taken and we had a good drop of rain last night. Always a great feeling when you start off a new Coppice like this.

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Broch

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I have finally got around to getting quotes for insurance for the wood. It's just short of 15 acres and I wanted public liability (to cover people walking through and camping in the wood as well as if a branch falls on a trespasser) and employee liability (you need that for anyone working under your instruction, even volunteers).

The first two quotes came in at £280 (not too bad) and £650! Then I contacted NFU who cover my house and my Land Rovers - to add the public liability to my house insurance was £11/month so I've gone for that for now and I need to think carefully about the rest. As soon as you go for the cover for volunteers it's treated as a business it would appear and comes under corporate insurance :(
 

Broch

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On a lighter note I thought I'd update on where I am with the bio-diversity survey. Part of our management plan requires us to log, as much as possible, what we have there so that change can be monitored. We've had the wood for three years now but we're still only scratching the surface. I haven't started on bugs other than noting the odd obvious ones, I've not formally logged all the birds either - however, we are making good progress on the plants; we seem to find a new one each time we go down including, recently, Yellow Archangel and Moschatel.

So far we have recorded:
15 species of tree
65 species of plant including 23 species classified as Ancient Woodland Indicator Species

This will be an ongoing task till the day I can no longer walk in the wood :)
 
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Broch

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As some of you will have seen on another thread, I have built a moth trap as part of my biodiversity surveying. Over just a few nights I have recorded 28 species of large moths (I just can't deal with the micro-moths). Last night's catch included the lovely Buff-tip shown below - it looks just like a birch twig!

Anyway, the point of the post: the moth trap has cost about a fiver plus some scrap materials. If anyone wants the design, including the circuit for the light source, drop me a PM.

Buff-tip - TG5TG500340.jpg
 
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Broch

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I thought some of you may be interested in these on-line sessions run by the Small Woods Association:

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February 18, 7-8pm: Firewood: The New Regulations. Small Firewood Producer Workshop.

February 19, 11am: PAWS and Ancient Woodland Management – Martin Hugi (Outreach Manager, Woodland Trust) is coming along to talk about best practise when managing ancient woodland sites, and restructuring on PAWS.

February 23, 11am-1pm: Tree Health Policy Options Workshops. Tree health grants and the potential for collective application.

February 25, 7pm: WoodsMeet – Natural regeneration vs tree planting, native vs non-native. We are looking for your views on woodland creation and expansion. Come along and help us unravel these issues.

February 26, 11am-3pm: Protecting our Oak Woodlands. In partnership with Action Oak, we have invited a great range of speakers to discuss everything, from best practise management of oak woodlands, oak pests and disease, all the way through to why it is important as a timber product.

March 4, 11am: Where have all the flowers gone? How much of an impact do herbivores have on our ground flora? Kate Holl, from NatureScot, travelled across Europe with a Churchill Fellowship visiting woodlands that have very few large herbivores, observing first hand the abundance of flowers and biodiversity

March 11, 11am: Managing sub-contractors in your woodland.

To take part in any of the events above, contact us quoting the session you are interested in
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Broch

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I have participated in a couple of their on-line sessions and I have attended some of their seminars over the last few years (they are about an hour away from me). As always with these things, being an expert in a subject does not guarantee good presentation skills but the ones I have participated in have been informative.

I'm afraid they're a bit UK-centric though :)
 
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Afternoon all, I was kindly directed here from my intro post, so I'm happy to see how many folks here are custodians of our precious woods. I've just joined a group of fellow owners of a woodland not far from where I live, and have owned another woodland in the National Forest for eight years.

I think the term 'custodian' is a very pertinent way to describe woodland ownership, especially with the challenges facing broadleaf woodland in the present day. When trying to explain my choice to purchase woodland with this in mind, I'm often met with blank or quizzical expressions from those beyond the scope of this forum and others like it!
 

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