Willow basket weaving

Robson Valley

On a new journey
Nov 24, 2014
9,959
2,669
McBride, BC
I can't say that I've ever seen much willow work here. Contemporary crafting but not much traditional use.
I've seen willow shoot growth that looks like it would be of weaving quality but never tried anything at all.

The First Nations of the Pacific Northwest do most vegetable fiber weaving with either spruce roots
or finely divided strips of western red cedar bark.
The basket work is beautiful. The capes and hats are so distinctive and waterproof, too.
 

SaraR

Full Member
Mar 25, 2017
1,651
1,209
Ceredigion
I can't say that I've ever seen much willow work here. Contemporary crafting but not much traditional use.
I've seen willow shoot growth that looks like it would be of weaving quality but never tried anything at all.

The First Nations of the Pacific Northwest do most vegetable fiber weaving with either spruce roots
or finely divided strips of western red cedar bark.
The basket work is beautiful. The capes and hats are so distinctive and waterproof, too.
Yeah I was amazed at the stuff made with red cedar bark strips that I saw in BC. It's so interesting to see how different cultures make similar things using different materials. :)
 
  • Like
Reactions: Robson Valley

Robson Valley

On a new journey
Nov 24, 2014
9,959
2,669
McBride, BC
I don't know what you do to the willow in preparation for weaving.
My brother made a big willow fruit basket, all the buds sprouted into a shrubby thing in his kitchen!

Western Red Cedar bark is really easy to get all you could possibly want. Close as the nearest cedar mill.
However, the First Nations do not want to tell you anything about the bark preparation.
The weaving technique is an open process for one and all to learn. Not unexpected.
The same sort of a gap exists in pole carving = a lot they will never show the public.
 

SaraR

Full Member
Mar 25, 2017
1,651
1,209
Ceredigion
You d
I don't know what you do to the willow in preparation for weaving.
My brother made a big willow fruit basket, all the buds sprouted into a shrubby thing in his kitchen!

Western Red Cedar bark is really easy to get all you could possibly want. Close as the nearest cedar mill.
However, the First Nations do not want to tell you anything about the bark preparation.
The weaving technique is an open process for one and all to learn. Not unexpected.
The same sort of a gap exists in pole carving = a lot they will never show the public.
You cut the willow in winter, then dry it to store. (More processing happens first if you want to remove the bark.) Then you soak it before use.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Robson Valley

Janne

Sent off - Not allowed to play
Feb 10, 2016
12,330
2,297
Grand Cayman, Norway, Sweden
save some of the knurliest pieces. Cleaned and polished ( oiled or lacquered) they make awesome handles for kitchen and serving utensils.
(not my idea. Seen and bought things like that in France, in Alsace)
 

Robson Valley

On a new journey
Nov 24, 2014
9,959
2,669
McBride, BC
I see that SaraR's willow appears to be 5 mm or less in diameter.
I can get a lot of that in pruning grapes vines.

No plans to cultivate and plant any new varieties so no big stuff.
I agree: Grape vine root or main stem wood is about as pretty as briar.
 
  • Like
Reactions: SaraR

SaraR

Full Member
Mar 25, 2017
1,651
1,209
Ceredigion
Thanks for posting lovely work. Great location as well. most of us will know Ogmore from the Bushmoot.

Im looking forward to seeing more of your basketry.
Thanks! I am doing one more course learning a new technique this year and then I'm on my own.

I'm still very chuffed with the willow backpack I made at the Bushmoot a few years ago, even if it's a wonky one. :D
 

spandit

Bushcrafter through and through
Jul 6, 2011
5,594
308
East Sussex, UK
This weekend's efforts: a 20" traditional Welsh cyntell basket. I'm very pleased with it! :DView attachment 53743 View attachment 53742
A lucrative hobby, if you're that way inclined:


Beautiful work, I've just booked a basic weaving course for next month
 
  • Like
Reactions: SaraR

SaraR

Full Member
Mar 25, 2017
1,651
1,209
Ceredigion
A lucrative hobby, if you're that way inclined:


Beautiful work, I've just booked a basic weaving course for next month
Sadly, like most for handcrafts, you'd be lucky to get anywhere near minimum wage for the time you put in.

I hope you have a great time on your course! You'll have too much to keep in mind for the first one, perhaps, but for your second basket, aim for maintaining the grip and control. If you can do that you're sorted.
 

spandit

Bushcrafter through and through
Jul 6, 2011
5,594
308
East Sussex, UK
Sadly, like most for handcrafts, you'd be lucky to get anywhere near minimum wage for the time you put in.
That's true enough. His courses are always sold out well in advance, which is a pity as he's local, although he specialises in frame baskets.

It'll be nice to get a grasp on how much material I need per basket so I can get enough soaked in advance without too much wastage. Surprisingly expensive to buy, but if I can get or make a stripping tool, I can make my own white or buff (think buff needs to be boiled first)
 

Robson Valley

On a new journey
Nov 24, 2014
9,959
2,669
McBride, BC
Take a look at a spoke shave as a bark-stripping tool. The sort with the adjustment screws, not the friction type that you set with a hammer.

I have been using 2 Samona s/s, one set to cut thick and one set to cut thin.
 

SaraR

Full Member
Mar 25, 2017
1,651
1,209
Ceredigion
In her book Willow Work, Mary Butcher does specify how much you need for each basket, which is very handy.

Buff willow can be dried out and resoaked later, whereas brown willow can be kept for longer (days) but not reused later. Soaked willow can also be frozen and then used straight away once thawed.
That's true enough. His courses are always sold out well in advance, which is a pity as he's local, although he specialises in frame baskets.

It'll be nice to get a grasp on how much material I need per basket so I can get enough soaked in advance without too much wastage. Surprisingly expensive to buy, but if I can get or make a stripping tool, I can make my own white or buff (think buff needs to be boiled first)
 

spandit

Bushcrafter through and through
Jul 6, 2011
5,594
308
East Sussex, UK
That is handy, thanks.

Until I can buy or fashion a stripping brake, I'm limited to brown willow as don't want to buy it in when I can grow it here.
 

spandit

Bushcrafter through and through
Jul 6, 2011
5,594
308
East Sussex, UK
Went on a little weaving course today at Mantel Farm in East Sussex, run by Julia Gurr. We wove a little breadbasket and a bird feeder. Learnt some new techniques, such as the "Japanese eye" finishing knot and just got a better feel for weaving. Got to use my new bodkin for the first time (and didn't realise you needed grease but how much easier does that make it?!). The bird feeder (not pictured) was like an upside down basket so learnt how to put a handle on, a skill which should transfer to a bigger round basket

willow_basket_3.jpg
 
  • Like
Reactions: Cobweb and Toddy

BCUK Shop

We have a a number of knives, T-Shirts and other items for sale.

SHOP HERE