Wilkinson Sword/Allan Wood Woodlore Knives
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Maybe??
But I would have thought that Micarta is available in the UK??!
Maybe the components are made in the US and then shipped to the UK for assembly and finishing?????????????
Any how looks like they are delayed.
Cheers
John
But I would have thought that Micarta is available in the UK??!
Maybe the components are made in the US and then shipped to the UK for assembly and finishing?????????????
Any how looks like they are delayed.
Cheers
John
"Hi John
No later than 10.12.03 fingers crossed!"
Latest from Woodlore.
So fingers crossed then
cheers
John
No later than 10.12.03 fingers crossed!"
Latest from Woodlore.
So fingers crossed then
cheers
John
johnboy said:
Micarta is an American product, it's not made in the UK.
Curly burch, however, is a little more acessible.
Both knives are delayed. ????
Probably the steel. Uk manufactures are few and far between, and with the amount they buy its probably ceaper to get it straight from the factory.
Simon
Simon
Maths test for you.
Woodlore/Alan wood hand made knife with neck/firesteel sheath and maple handle £195
Woodlore/wilkinson sword factory made knife £165 neck sheath for fire steel £45.
Which one's the bargain?
Woodlore/Alan wood hand made knife with neck/firesteel sheath and maple handle £195
Woodlore/wilkinson sword factory made knife £165 neck sheath for fire steel £45.
Which one's the bargain?
You're right the maths is lousy.
But.... (and I'm not defending Woodlore here) I guess the point is that if you want a knife quickly then the long wait for the Alan wood bushcraft knife is probably unacceptable for you. So I guess you will be willing to pay almost as much for a quicker turnaround. However if you want a ray designed knife with an excellent specification then the Micarta version has to be the best deal of all.
It'll be interesting once the knifes finally turn up and get dispatched then we will be able to compare and see if they are such a great deal after all.
Cheers
John
But.... (and I'm not defending Woodlore here) I guess the point is that if you want a knife quickly then the long wait for the Alan wood bushcraft knife is probably unacceptable for you. So I guess you will be willing to pay almost as much for a quicker turnaround. However if you want a ray designed knife with an excellent specification then the Micarta version has to be the best deal of all.
It'll be interesting once the knifes finally turn up and get dispatched then we will be able to compare and see if they are such a great deal after all.
Cheers
John
Good lord! What have I started!?!
Who's going to do the knife review when they start coming through, then?
Who's going to do the knife review when they start coming through, then?
Hey guys, let me offer you an alternative. You might want to consider the Bushcrafter from Allan Blade. This is an extremely nice scandi-ground knife with a coffin tang that is also pinned. so you get the best of both worlds-a full tang and a hidden tang which is more comfy in the winter on bare hands. Allan is an absolutely superb knifemaker and I don't make that claim lightly. You get absolute perfection from him in terms of fit and finish. That tang is wonderfully fitted to the handle. In short, it's an awesome knife. The steel is precision ground Starret O1 steel and Allan knows his stuff when it comes to heat treat. Not to mention, there are few knifemakers out there that can hold a candle to Allan when it comes to grinding a knife. I have two of his knife grinding videos so I've seen the man in action.
Now the only "complaint" I have of the Buschcrafter is that I think maybe some might perfer a bit wider handle but Allan is a custom maker and I'm sure he will give you whatever you want. For instance, mine is in micarta but I'm willing to bet Allan will also do a Bushcrafter in Bocote or Osage orange because I have two of his little Pack Pals (another awesome knife priced unbelievably low), one with Bacote and one with Osage Orange scales.
I paid $125 for my Bushcrafter. I think he will add a firesteel holder for $12 or $15. The finish is sandblast but if you want a hand rubbed finish, it will cost more. Sheaths are kydex and Allan makes one of the best kydex sheaths out there. So for $125 you get a custom made knife with a perfect scandi grind, a bonus coffin tang perfectly fitted, and you won't be waiting for a year either. But I would not wait too long. I got a feeling Allan's knives are going to go into high demand (I'm writing an article about them right now for Tactical Knives). He's been in high demand before but due to personal problems, fell off the radar. But he's back and he's good. I'm guessing that the waiting time is around a couple months. Well worth it in my opinion. Just my two cents but I thought you folks might be interested.
You can contact him here: BladeCutlery2003@aol.com
Now the only "complaint" I have of the Buschcrafter is that I think maybe some might perfer a bit wider handle but Allan is a custom maker and I'm sure he will give you whatever you want. For instance, mine is in micarta but I'm willing to bet Allan will also do a Bushcrafter in Bocote or Osage orange because I have two of his little Pack Pals (another awesome knife priced unbelievably low), one with Bacote and one with Osage Orange scales.
I paid $125 for my Bushcrafter. I think he will add a firesteel holder for $12 or $15. The finish is sandblast but if you want a hand rubbed finish, it will cost more. Sheaths are kydex and Allan makes one of the best kydex sheaths out there. So for $125 you get a custom made knife with a perfect scandi grind, a bonus coffin tang perfectly fitted, and you won't be waiting for a year either. But I would not wait too long. I got a feeling Allan's knives are going to go into high demand (I'm writing an article about them right now for Tactical Knives). He's been in high demand before but due to personal problems, fell off the radar. But he's back and he's good. I'm guessing that the waiting time is around a couple months. Well worth it in my opinion. Just my two cents but I thought you folks might be interested.
You can contact him here: BladeCutlery2003@aol.com
Gary said:
The RM/WS Birds Eye Maple handled version is still hand made, but with a shorter waiting time compared to the Woods version. Comes with hand stitched sheath too, though not the neck version, but I'd just put some cord through the belt loop.
The Micarta version is factory made with a machine stitched sheath hence the difference in price over the others. I think this one is the real bargain...after all, when in use will we be able to tell the difference bewteen them all.
It's nice to have all the options available though.
Mmmmmm
The woodlore website now quotes "delivery end of January" for the micarta version.
Oh dear!
john
The woodlore website now quotes "delivery end of January" for the micarta version.
Oh dear!
john
Somethings afoot.
It actually says "Please note delivery: end January 2004"
for *both* the micarta and birch handled versions.
I wonder if this is for a second delivery, or if the original delivery is delayed?
We're now looking at a 3 month delay from the original October delivery.
It actually says "Please note delivery: end January 2004"
for *both* the micarta and birch handled versions.
I wonder if this is for a second delivery, or if the original delivery is delayed?
We're now looking at a 3 month delay from the original October delivery.
On the subject of cost, Woodlore charge £45 for either the neck sheath or belt sheath if bought as a separate item, so buying the Wilkinson Maple knife with a neck sheath means that you are actually getting a knife and two sheaths for the money (Woodlore state that they will not substitute one sheath for the other). Even so, and especially in light of the increasing waiting period, the original knife looks a slightly better deal to me. Presumably once the initial production hiccoughs are out of the way the Wilkinson versions should be in stock throughout the year, but those of you now looking at a post-Christmas delivery must be feeling pretty cheesed off.
On the subject of the woodlore and delays, I have just heard from woodlore...
" ...We are expecting our first delivery of knives by the 10.12.03 for all the orders made up to 28.11.03. Any orders from 28.11.03 will not get delivery until January. Wilkinson Sword ....assure me that they will have our back orders in time for Christmas."
That's something.
So it looks like the new January delivery is for orders placed on 28.11.03 and after!
" ...We are expecting our first delivery of knives by the 10.12.03 for all the orders made up to 28.11.03. Any orders from 28.11.03 will not get delivery until January. Wilkinson Sword ....assure me that they will have our back orders in time for Christmas."
That's something.
So it looks like the new January delivery is for orders placed on 28.11.03 and after!
Wonder if WS will make the wednesday deadline? If they do, and woodlore are fast, some of us may get our blades by Friday. .....maybe.
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cheers, and.
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At the risk of emptying my water bottle onto your camp fire, I spoke to Wilkinson Sword yesterday afternoon and they told me that they are still working towards the 19th. I said that the 10th had been quoted on the Woodlore site, but she said she had checked with the production team and they said 19th would be the date they were ready to ship out. 
I asked that as I'd ordered mine direct, if it would be later than the Woodlore ones but she said no, Woodlore and direct orders would all be completed at the same time.
Sorry everyone.....I hope they come sooner too, I want mine for Xmas. It was originally to be a birthday present, that was Nov 3rd!!!! :roll:
I asked that as I'd ordered mine direct, if it would be later than the Woodlore ones but she said no, Woodlore and direct orders would all be completed at the same time.
Sorry everyone.....I hope they come sooner too, I want mine for Xmas. It was originally to be a birthday present, that was Nov 3rd!!!! :roll:
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