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I should stay out of this one, very interested in the replies though.
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what if you were politely invited to share your views LOL.
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I should stay out of this one, very interested in the replies though.
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well I don't work for them or sell there products,And I did assume on a Bushcraft site readers could handle a discussion,But point taken I will end my endorsement
what if you were politely invited to share your views LOL.
I've seen a couple of his videos, not too bad and better than many there just not easy to get hold of.
In the UK, you are right, there is nothing much between sitting cold, wet, miserable hungry, scared, on your own, for three day until you are rescued. Or sitting next to a nice warm fire with a brew and a dry place to sleep for three or four days whilst you are rescued. The first is survival the second is bushcraft, if you cant tell the difference by now then there is no point being here, you may as well go join a survivalist forum. Just make sure that you wear something bright orange, so no one mistakes you for food and shoots you, or a government agent coming to spy.one thing I have noticed while reading the miriad US survival forums over the years is that if you took out all the british members you would have a sizeable uk forum but it probably wouldn't be a quarter as interesting as there's nothing really to do here and even survival wise you only really have to stay alive for three or four days. thats probably got more to do with the evolution of bushcraft (or dumbed down survival) as most dont see why they need to round off their skill set when they never lose their mobile phone signal and a gps is so much easier than learning to read a map.
In the UK, you are right, there is nothing much between sitting cold, wet, miserable hungry, scared, on your own, for three day until you are rescued. Or sitting next to a nice warm fire with a brew and a dry place to sleep for three or four days whilst you are rescued. The first is survival the second is bushcraft, if you cant tell the difference by now then there is no point being here, you may as well go join a survivalist forum. Just make sure that you wear something bright orange, so no one mistakes you for food and shoots you, or a government agent coming to spy.
Actually the difference is living through the threat of danger or living with no threat of danger. That is the only difference between survival and bushcraft.
Not sure what you mean, let me get this right, You think that if a numpty is lost and spend three/four miserable days/nights lost in the middle of a wood or on the edge of a moor, with the threat death by hypothermia, and by more luck than judgement on his part he is rescued by others, wet, miserable and close to shuffling off this mortal coil, that is the panicle of survival.
However, if a person with half an idea of what to do, finds himself in the same situation, and using his brain, and experience , and only with what he can find about him, makes himself comfortable and is rescued having spent a few days in relative comfort (of his own making) that is someting you feel is of a lesser achievement.
The threat/danger is equally applied to both, however one persons actions removes himself from the danger and the others inaction increases it. The situation is identical, the danger is also identical, and how the danger is dealt with, is the measures the person. In a any situation, any fool can be miserable.
So in short are you saying...
If you are sitting cold, wet, miserable hungry, scared, on your own, for three day until you are rescued. Then you are in a survival situation even if it is one of you own making.
However, given the same identical circumstances, you manage to make the best of a bad job and spent the identical amount of time in the same situation but through your own skills/knowledge, you have an ok time, then that is just camping/bushcrafting.
Bushcrafting I guess is reducing the danger your are facing by skill and knowledge. Would survival be the opposite?
I'm not saying that it is a special art, I'm just saying IMHO that bushcraft is not some dumbed down version of survival.You are trying to say bushcrafting is a special art that is elevated above survival, I am saying they are the same except for the lack of danger in your more controlled and much safer environment.
I'm not saying that it is a special art, I'm just saying IMHO that bushcraft is not some dumbed down version of survival.
Survival is mostly a situation; a person finds themselves in when they fail to prepare.
Bushcraft is keeping alive practices that were everyday skills that kept our forbears alive. Skills that could come in useful in the highly unlikely even you ever need them. I feel that by thinking of them as survival skill you are already preparing to fail, because you almost never get the chance to really practice survival skills
A question was asked on this board, about what method did people use to lit their camp fires, a few people used lighters, the reason given by some was they didnt want to have to wait for a brew. To me, that defeats the whole point of practicing bushcraft. The more you practice the better you get at it.