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tenbears10

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It's only easy to harvest emails from people who don't keep them secure. I run many websites and I display my email address and those of clients. They don't get harvested because we encode them. I get maybe one spam email a day if that and even spammers don't send me all their other email adresses in the cc.
 

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Warrior Librarian said:
Assuming you're using a web-based client, yes. Not all of us do. My annoyance with this one is that it was sent to my main e-mail address, which I'm very careful of - not only that, but it was visible to all the other 94 recipients, most of whom I don't know.

Sorry, but that's rubbish. My main account is, and always has been, spam-free and I'd like to keep it that way.

You're entitled to your opinion, but insulting people generally isn't the way to win friends and influence people.

I don't recall saying it was the fault of BCUK; it's very obvious from the e-mail itself whose fault it is and why, and if I assume there's more protection on a site than there is, then that's my problem. It would be nice to be more aware of how the site works though, and useful if the relevant options in the UserCP could be turned off by default, rather than on.

I dont want to be sucked into an argument with anyone, but I want to answer a few points that were raised.

If your main account has always been spam free, then you are lucky. Just beacuse it has never been spamed does not mean that if someone wanted to, they couldn't, as has been shown today.

I didn't mean to insult anyone, but if you're saying you want your membership deleted because of ONE email..... And when did I ever say I was trying to win friends and influence people? (although it certainly seemed to influence you :lmao: )

The way you were suggesting removing your account with BCUK suggests that you felt that BCUK was in some way responsible. I'm sorry if I misunderstood that.

I realise that you are massively irritated by the SPAM incident (after all, all our mail boxes were inundated by that single email :p ), and I reaise I could've shown a little more tact. (Tact is someting I was born without)

Again, I'm sorry to have made your bad day worse, I didn't mean to insult anyone (I have been a touch on the emotional side recently - just check out the thread on 'Poor Roe Deer' :11doh: oh the embarassment.... )

Sorry Warrior Librarian, I didn't mean to offend you,

Jake.
 
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kanefer

Guest
just replied to this guy telling him off then checked on here and you guys are already on it. fyi here was my response :

Hi,

I just really lurk on bcuk and haven't been on there in a while. I've always thought it was a cool place to waste a few minutes (hours?) at work reading others ideas and experiences. Mainly just in the kit section reading others reviews and dreaming that, one day, I might own something similar :)

Hence this email comes as a suprise! I thought it was heavily moderated as there may be people of tender years reading the site/to keep it advert free etc etc etc. I really should get back on the site and get lurking again..........

Did Ray Mears threaten to sue BCUK?!?!?!?! That's astonishing........

Anyway - back to the point of my response. If you are going to send what is, essentially, spam could you not have bcc'd everybody? I don't want to get involved in flame wars or sniping at moderators of bcuk or attacking/defending magazines and their solicitors. So please don't send me any more of this pap. I like BCUK, not enough to give it any money, but I like it. Its a great resource, and there are far too few of these about.

Regards

Stuart
 

capacious

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Actually, that is an intersting question!

Did Ray Mears really threaten to sue BCUK? And if so, what the hell about?

Jake.
 
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Lost_Patrol

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I got one too this time, but didn't get the last one.

Although I'm not happy with spam, and less so with having my email address visible to everyone, I think we need to keep a cool head about this.

I work in IT, and in my experience no system is 100% secure. We have to regard spam as an occupational hazard of internet use. Personnally I don't think blaming BCUK or threatening to leave is the best move, as this will happen sooner or later wherever you choose to venture online.

Just my twopenneth....
 
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kanefer

Guest
this is the guy trip trapping across the bridge.....or was that the goats.........

WHOIS results for canvasrepaircentre.co.uk
Generated by www.DNSstuff.com
Found WHOIS server for .uk: whois.nic.uk. Looking up.


Using 0 day old cached answer (or, you can get fresh results).
Hiding E-mail address (you can get results with the E-mail address).


Domain name:
canvasrepaircentre.co.uk

Registrant:
Barrie Beardsmore

Trading as:
Canvas Repair Centre Ltd

Registrant type:
UK Limited Company, (Company number: 4977943)

Registrant's address:
121 Branston Road
Burton on Trent
Staffordshire
DE14 3DD
GB

Registrant's agent:
Kite IT Solutions Ltd [Tag = KITEIT]
URL: http://www.kiteitsolutions.co.uk

Relevant dates:
Registered on: 26-Feb-2002
Renewal date: 26-Feb-2008
Last updated: 01-Feb-2006

Registration status:
Registered until renewal date.

Name servers:
ns0.kitews.co.uk
ns1.kitews.co.uk


and the IP addy they are using is :

inetnum: 85.189.34.0 - 85.189.37.255
netname: GIS-MB-GRIFFIN
descr: Griffin Internet ADSL Managed Broadband ADSL Assignment
country: GB
admin-c: AS5493-RIPE
tech-c: GNOC1
status: ASSIGNED PA
mnt-by: GRIFFIN-NOC
changed: ******@griffin.com 20051214
source: RIPE

role: Griffin Internet Contact Role
address: 20 St Christophers Way
address: Pride Park
address: DE24 8JY
phone: +44 870 804 0804
admin-c: AS5493-RIPE
tech-c: GC1258-RIPE
e-mail: ***@griffin.com
remarks: /*****************************************************
remarks: * Griffin Internet has an open peering policy and are
remarks: * located at LINX, MaNAP and eXchange Point
remarks: * Telephone: +44 870 804 0804
remarks: * Fax: +44 870 804 0805
remarks: * Peering requests to: *******@griffin.com
remarks: * Abuse reports to: *****@griffin.com
remarks: * Website : http://www.griffin.com
remarks: */****************************************************
nic-hdl: GNOC1
mnt-by: GRIFFIN-NOC
source: RIPE
abuse-mailbox: *****@griffin.com
changed: ******@griffin.com 20050527

person: Adrian Sunderland
address: Griffin Internet
address: Sidney Robinson Business Park
address: Ascot Drive
address: Derby DE24 8EH
address: United Kingdom
phone: +44 870 000 7100
fax-no: +44 870 000 7101
e-mail: ******@griffin.com
nic-hdl: AS5493-RIPE
mnt-by: GRIFFIN-NOC
changed: ******@griffin.com 20040315
source: RIPE

% Information related to '85.189.0.0/16AS20500'

route: 85.189.0.0/16
descr: GRIFFIN-UK-AGGREGATE
origin: AS20500
mnt-by: GRIFFIN-NOC
changed: ******@griffin.com 20041207
source: RIPE



looks as though the address to send complaints to would be abuse@griffin.com

my longest post!
 

risby

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Jun 21, 2005
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anthonyyy said:
When I put said E-mail into a spell checker only 2 words come up I deduce, therefore that a) the writer is a very good typist and speller and b) that the writer dosen't use a spell checker.
That rules out 99.9% of BCUK members )including meself).


ha ha, very good ... but he's not so great with the grammar:

"there is a couple of new bushcraft resources"

"More recently I am appalled"

I know, I know, proof-reading spam ... actually I have got too much time on my hands, gizza job.
 
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kanefer

Guest
just received this from canvas repair centre :

Hi,


Firstly, we apologise that you have been contacted from our email address. We have had a number of calls and emails regarding this and are having the matter investigated.


From speaking to our I.T. guy it appears that our email addresses have been cloned as there has been a mail sent out from one of our addresses to another of our addresses. We have nothing to do with this and infact, had no knowledge of bush craft until recently, having placed an ad in a bush craft publication and also having contact with BCUK regarding posting and email contact from Tony Bristow regarding manufacturing some sheeting.


We are obviously very concerned about this matter as we do not want it to have an impact on our business. We have sent this email to all of the recipients and assure you that your email address is now deleted from our system. We have spoken with Tony from BCUK and have been in-touch with the Police as he suggested.

Yours sincerely

Barrie

Canvas Repair Centre Ltd.

This seems weirdly malicious..... I'm staying out of this dudes

pontious pilat
 

Tony

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I've just been chatting with Mike from the mentioned Bushtruck school and he's got no idea at all and he's very worried about the negative impact this might have on him as well as us and Simon.

I have to say that I don't think that anyone mentioned in the email has anything to do with this issue. Mike's definitely got no beef with Bushcraft UK and I'm sure that Simon would never condone this activity. There is a connection between the points made but I think they've been grouped together to cause issue between parties where there is none. There is no bad feeling between any of us.

Mike will post on here himself when he gets a spare minute.
 

Ahjno

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Aug 9, 2004
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Cheer up my friends!!!
Spring is allmost here! Live is great, don't mock around about a sad looner.

Top tip:

Switch your machine off and go read the BCUK magazine :D Or: stiff upper lip: ignore him, don't post here. Let my post be the last one in this thread He might be well lurking and has a great laugh at what he has caused: he allmost got BCUK members fall over eachother. We don't want that to happen, do we? He's a blimmin' lurker!

Guys, we're are way above this kind of things!

I admit, it's a pain in the proverbial ... to get spam on an account you protect as much as you can against such junk.
An idea is to use a Hotmail address, use this for everything you need an address for - I've got three:
1. private
2. msn / all other e-mailaddress requirements
3. a back up if I need to ditch one the first 2
(No, I haven't had that e-mail ... :( I too feel misplaced ... ;) :p :D)
So, go out, read a book, spend a night with loved ones, watch the telly, go to the pub (don't drink if you have to drive back home yourself!), read the BCUK magazine, practice some skills, or - just surf BCUK, but please don't annoy yourself about this, just ignore it! It's just an e-mail. (...)

Let it to Tony and the Mods, they do a great job behind the scenes. They'll do everything in their power to prevent this happening again in the future. And they'll take appropiate action against those responsible if possible.

Have a great evening!

Johan
 

Scytale

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Jan 1, 2006
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I would be furious about this spam email and would take it a lot further if it wasn't for the fact that I am in the middle of organising a $2 million transfer of funds from a bank in Nigeria.........
 

bothyman

Settler
Nov 19, 2003
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Sutherland. Scotland.
Just got an email from The Canvas Repair Centre.

I wonder if they could make me one of those Canvas Canoe Packs ??? people are talking about .
Does anyone have a pattern for one??

MickT
 

Marts

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May 5, 2005
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Scytale said:
I would be furious about this spam email and would take it a lot further if it wasn't for the fact that I am in the middle of organising a $2 million transfer of funds from a bank in Nigeria.........

Ah! but is it 100% risk free?
 

Lemoneyewash

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Mar 16, 2004
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Toddy said:
No one's happy about it, but neither did bcuk deliberately or carelessly leave anyone's email details vulnerable.
I'm not vexed with bcuk, I'm vexed at the cretin who sent me the email. What did he hope to achieve? I'm already on record as admitting that pestering me and my friends like this, is only going to make it even more unlikely that I'll want to buy his preferred magazine, or support his viewpoint.

Exactly. And it's one email I've had plus an apology from the Canvas Repair Centre. S'no big deal. 2 emails I shouldn't have got.

At least he wasn't trying to sell me Viagra..... :theyareon

:D
 

capacious

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I get a depressingly large number of ads for viagra. I'm only 19. How could they possibly know?...... :(
 

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