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Erbswurst

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That here you could do in a camp:

https://bushcraftuk.com/video-category/carving/

That here you could use in a camp or for winter camping. It would probably be interesting to carry it even in spring and autumn around, if you would hike and camp with a group:

https://bushcraftuk.com/21-blade-folding-buck-saw/

A folding saw would be interesting, if you would like to go alone in the woods and want to make there some proper things like a lean to shelter, a tripod, a bench, a chair perhaps.
In my opinion you shouldn't build there a little US cavalry fort, like you can find it in a lot of videos. But a nice lean to shelter with stone circle for the fire and a tripod and some benches around to sit there with some friends would be a nice idea.

That could be done with a folding saw that fits well in a small ruck sack.
The best are the Silky saws. You have to be very careful with them, because you easily can break them.

The lighter option here would be the Fiskars X-trakt saws. Alone perhaps better the small one, Fiskars Xtract SW 73, 130g. That's more for hiking and carving.

But should you often go out with a group, the larger one would be the better option. Fiskars Xtract SW 75. That's more for shelter building and also OK for fire wood in spring, summer and autumn.

The well sized hatchet Fiskars Universal Axe X7-XS is large like a normal 600g hatchet, what usually weights with the handle together 700g.
But the Fiskars X7 weights only 600g all together. With its relatively long handle it is very effective for splitting, far better than the smaller one with that very short handle.

It is very tough, even beginners will not break it so easily like a hatchet with a wooden handle.

But of course: If you watch out, you can find in the next weeks at Lidl a small folding saw that costs only round about 3 £ and you can get a hatchet for 5 £ too. Usually they are called "600g", but your kitchen scales will show 700g.
That should be fine for the first steps, but to invest in the good quality Fiskars stuff is the better option.
I use my X7 hatchet since round about 25 years. It depends in the money you are able to invest, what now is the best option for you.

If you are often hiking with a group a folding bow saw is an intelligent investment, if it contains a STANDARD BLADE.
We have here in the forum a thread about it.

A bow saw is far more effective than a folding saw or Xtract saw! That's important if you want to make a lot of fire wood for a group in cold conditions!

Did I understand right that you are a boy scout?
A boy scout or boy scout leader I would always recommend to keep in mind, that the stuff should fit for the group too.
That means the tools can be a bit heavier and larger.

If you want to go out mainly alone, you should buy very very light stuff, like the Fiskars Xtrakt saws. But if you mainly go out with a group, you should concentrate your money to buy high quality lightweight group equipment like the Fiskars X7 hatchet and a folding (aluminium frame) bow saw!

One of the group can buy the expensive saw, the other the relatively expensive hatchet, the third the large pot, the fourth a larger tarp for the group, so that in the end every body owns a part of the perfect group equipment.

He will own it, store it at home, ready to go, he will carry it and look after it.

In my opinion that's the best way to organise the stuff in a proper boy scout patrol or similar group of young bushcrafters.
 
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He asked for light weight tools.

So the Fiskars X7 hatchet which weights only 600g all together is the best answer for a young man.

Should Black&Decker sell it cheaper, of course one should buy this.
No Idea, if it exists from B&D too.
 

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No Idea, if it exists from B&D too.

They used to. I got mine in one of their sales a few years ago. A favourite of mine is the Estwing sportsmans axe. I've used their hammers for years, and they've been flawless, and stood up to some serious misuse. Knives and axes
are a bit of a personal thing, use what you're happy with. The knife I have used for the past 30+ years is a shortened and 're profiled butchers knife, and it has had some real abuse, including being hit on the back with a hammer to cut galvanised fence wire, something I would never think of doing with anything expensive, but it has stood up to it. I recently acquired another quality cast off, which I'm going to mod.
 
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Oh, no!
They offer two versions!

Estwing Sportsman hatchet E14a weights 620g!

Expensive but surely good.

Does the handle stay how it should be for years? I am always afraid about leather handles.
 

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Does the handle stay how it should be for years? I am always afraid about leather handles.

my hammer has been ok for 20+ years. They do a nylon handled grip one also. I find them very reassuring to use, but as I said earlier, it's my personal preference. Aldi recently had a copy, but it did not feel right. They were under £10.
 
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That here you could do in a camp:

https://bushcraftuk.com/video-category/carving/

That here you could use in a camp or for winter camping. It would probably be interesting to carry it even in spring and autumn around, if you would hike and camp with a group:

https://bushcraftuk.com/21-blade-folding-buck-saw/

A folding saw would be interesting, if you would like to go alone in the woods and want to make there some proper things like a lean to shelter, a tripod, a bench, a chair perhaps.
In my opinion you shouldn't build there a little US cavalry fort, like you can find it in a lot of videos. But a nice lean to shelter with stone circle for the fire and a tripod and some benches around to sit there with some friends would be a nice idea.

That could be done with a folding saw that fits well in a small ruck sack.
The best are the Silky saws. You have to be very careful with them, because you easily can break them.

The lighter option here would be the Fiskars X-trakt saws. Alone perhaps better the small one, Fiskars Xtract SW 73, 130g. That's more for hiking and carving.

But should you often go out with a group, the larger one would be the better option. Fiskars Xtract SW 75. That's more for shelter building and also OK for fire wood in spring, summer and autumn.

The well sized hatchet Fiskars Universal Axe X7-XS is large like a normal 600g hatchet, what usually weights with the handle together 700g.
But the Fiskars X7 weights only 600g all together. With its relatively long handle it is very effective for splitting, far better than the smaller one with that very short handle.

It is very tough, even beginners will not break it so easily like a hatchet with a wooden handle.

But of course: If you watch out, you can find in the next weeks at Lidl a small folding saw that costs only round about 3 £ and you can get a hatchet for 5 £ too. Usually they are called "600g", but your kitchen scales will show 700g.
That should be fine for the first steps, but to invest in the good quality Fiskars stuff is the better option.
I use my X7 hatchet since round about 25 years. It depends in the money you are able to invest, what now is the best option for you.

If you are often hiking with a group a folding bow saw is an intelligent investment, if it contains a STANDARD BLADE.
We have here in the forum a thread about it.

A bow saw is far more effective than a folding saw or Xtract saw! That's important if you want to make a lot of fire wood for a group in cold conditions!

Did I understand right that you are a boy scout?
A boy scout or boy scout leader I would always recommend to keep in mind, that the stuff should fit for the group too.
That means the tools can be a bit heavier and larger.

If you want to go out mainly alone, you should buy very very light stuff, like the Fiskars Xtrakt saws. But if you mainly go out with a group, you should concentrate your money to buy high quality lightweight group equipment like the Fiskars X7 hatchet and a folding (aluminium frame) bow saw!

One of the group can buy the expensive saw, the other the relatively expensive hatchet, the third the large pot, the fourth a larger tarp for the group, so that in the end every body owns a part of the perfect group equipment.

He will own it, store it at home, ready to go, he will carry it and look after it.

In my opinion that's the best way to organise the stuff in a proper boy scout patrol or similar group of young bushcrafters.
Never owned a silky saw, but from what you have said the fragility of them would have me worried, I think the best pocketable saw there is, comes with an SAK, it is good as an emergency thing to have in your pocket just in case. Beyond that the cheapest pruning saw out there will do a better job of larger tree limbs. Fiskars axes are likewise a nice cheap choice of beater, I have one on the allotment and I do not half abuse it, the edge is well chipped now, but do I care? No it is not precious so it is not something to worry about.
 

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In my opinion the Swiss army knife saws are good for hunters, because they cut bones very well. And they are good if one wants to make every evening an exactly fitting tent pole, for example for a polish army tent.

"Just in case" I wouldn't carry it, because that case usually doesn't happen.

What I can do in 3 minutes with this small saw I can do in 10 minutes with the knife, the blade of the "Victorinox Compact" for example, by the way the tool I am using for 90% of every work in the bush.
I usually break fire wood with hands, knee and especially feet in hiking boots, if I am hiking alone.

I care for my Fiskars hatchet, because I love it.
But of course, nothing would happen if I would forget it for a month in the garden. It would become a bit rusty perhaps. No problem to clean that away.

Yes, the Silky saws are the best cutting folding saws on the world market. But that isn't stuff for Mrs Miller and Mr Smith in little Duckvillage!
That are professional tools, meant to be used by professional gardeners!

They do not forgive any misuse.

They have to saw free and only with pulled force. If you don't explain it well to a beginner he will break it by pushing it.

That's the reason, why often the Bahco Laplander saws are recommended to beginners: They do not work very well, but you can learn with them by doing!

All tree climbing gardeners use Silky saws. Time is money!
 
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Erbswurst

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They currently sell at Lidl a 3 £ folding saw.

It is relatively heavy.

It will become rusty if not stored dry and get after use a bit oil on the blade.

It will not work as good as an expensive one.

And it will not stay sharp very long.

BUT

A beginner could use it for his first steps.
If he breaks it, it doesn't matter.
That fault will teach him the point, where he has to pay attention with expensive folding saws.
And after some time of use he is far more able to decide himself, what he needs.

To build a nice lean to shelter in the forest it surely will last long enough.

Who wants to build one after the other every week? That could become boaring after a time.

I think it's a good recommendation for those who have to count with usual pocket money.
 
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Wayland

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I can see all the predictable answers for chopping, sawing and bashing stuff above but as usual very little for fixing and mending.

An awl and a couple of needles with some strong thread will save your backside more ounce for ounce than any of the heavier tools listed above.

Sewing-Kit.jpg


It doesn't need to be as elaborate as my kit here but I have fixed shoes, bags and shelters more often than I care to remember and made no end of useful things in the quiet times in between because I carry a few such things.

One of my latest projects completed on camp this summer.

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Ditty-Bag-Open-500.jpg
 
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