What is it with Bear Grylls and Pee!?!

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dewi

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Of course you realize that it does indeed snow in Hawaii don't you?

Somewhat strange, did you know that the website used to sell blue and yellow macaws in Hawaii is called BirdsNow? Bird Snow!! Proof that Ray is indeed in Hawaii!

And Bear doesn't have his feet in a badger... on Hawaii it would be a Mujina. Although... and this is where it gets strange again, the Japanese believe the badger/mujina to be a shapeshifter, so Bear could in fact have begun climbing into what he thought was a camel, but it shapeshifted back to a badger... which all seems perfectly plausible.

Still doesn't explain the electric eel have no way to conduct electricity to Ray's dodgem cart though... that is where the real conspiracy lies!
 

sunndog

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I've heard of a thing called 'Wifi', could it be that I wonder?

Nope, it just shows up ray's shameful lack of knowlage when it comes to bushcraft dodgems. The pole on the back of a dodgem car is to connect it to the electricified (real word) grid above the track. With the eel being the power source theres no need for the pole at all
he could have connected it directly to the bush built electric motor (easy)

Just shows how these so called "experts" wouldn't last five minutes in a real bamboo based fairground survival situation :(
 

dewi

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Just shows how these so called "experts" wouldn't last five minutes in a real bamboo based fairground survival situation :(

Agreed. I have certain misgivings about the structure of that bamboo roller coaster track in the background as well... whilst I appreciate that bamboo constructions are nothing new to Hawaii, whether you could build a full 'loop d loop' from bamboo tracks alone without any support? Not sure about that.

I'm wondering whether Mr Mears has simply constructed said roller coaster tracks purely as a gimmick, never to be used as an actual roller coaster at all... just the representation of one. And I think that can defined as fakery... not that I'm Ray bashing... just that a fake roller coaster track is what it is.

Actually I'm beginning to think the whole picture is faked... especially when you consider that Bear is obviously next to a Hawaiian volcano, so the sand beneath the snow that Ray is on should in fact be volcanic sand... and as we all know, volcanic sand is typically black. There is no hint of black beneath Ray... and before someone argues that black is not a colour as it is in fact the absence of colour, I would graciously point you to Sundog's comment about bush-built electric motors. There are many more issues there than black being a colour... nothing to see here... move along. Move along.
 

Goatboy

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And we all know that bamboo was used as a filament in some early lightbulbs.

Sent via smoke-signal from a woodland in Scotland.
 

dewi

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And we all know that bamboo was used as a filament in some early lightbulbs.

Sent via smoke-signal from a woodland in Scotland.

True, but unless Hawaii is a vacuum, Ray's electric eel attachment to the bamboo is about as much use as a tap-dancing microprocessor controlled portrait of a bowl of soup.

Bear on the other hand has made use of local wildlife to keep his feet warm... and the only thing that doesn't look right is that it appears a potato was part of the badger's innards!
 

Goatboy

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No ones mentioned the fact that they have a large ferris (ferous) wheel and aren't out hunting for flint so that they can char the bamboo so that in it's carbonised form it will be able to carry the charge to Uncle Rays bumper car. They're overlooking a valuable reasource.

Sent via smoke-signal from a woodland in Scotland.
 

dewi

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That's because the bamboo ferris wheel is a plausible part of the picture... there is a bamboo ferris wheel in the Philippines. Ray has updated the design a little, but you can see he was inspired by Palawan tribe during one of his many visits there.

Makes you wonder if the Palawan tribe came up with the ingenious design for the bumper car as well?
 

Goatboy

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I wonder why you never see bumper stickers on bumper cars? Surely the tribe could've come up with some witty bon mott like "Bushcrafters do it in the woods".


Sent via smoke-signal from a woodland in Scotland.
 

garethw

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I think most people are missing the point that TV and cinema are FAKE!! Often to get one sequence you need half a dozen takes, and several camera angles. Often you need to film out of sequnce to make it easier... the sequence then being restored to its logical order in the editing bay.

If you watch one of the 'Making of" clips of Bear Grylls stuff you'll see they have about 8 or more people around including a producer/director telling what shots he wants. It has to be a bit Over The Top so Joe Public will find it interesting... Most of the time is will be story boarded and the main aim will be to get the shots and get the dramatic shots from a cameras perspective!!

For most of therse shows the guys will work long hours and hard to get the show in the bag, and at the end of the day that is ths whole point of the excercice; to get an interesting and compelling TV Show for the public and advertisers on the channel. How they do it is really irrelevant.

The only one I've seen who has actually done it all himself on his tod, including the filming, is Les Stroud.

cheers
Gareth
 

BushBerks

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I don't have an issue with them hamming it up for the camera's, it's the factual inaccuracies, that will get someone killed if they think they're doing the right thing, that get my goat!

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See Ed Stafford Walking the amazon...amazing feat of endurance. He also does a Naked and alone series. one tough cookie.

Ok, All respect for the Guinness book of records walk, but "Naked and Alone" really, come on, just how desperate are these people to get on telly, "look at me, I’ve got no brawers on". Sorry Mr Grylls, all is forgiven, you rock.
 
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Andy BB

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Clearly, Ray is the boss, as he obviously learned from a post of mine that being fat is a prime survival requirement.....................
 

4freek

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I just prefer someone who can teach me something as opposed to entertain me with antics.

Mears vid's on Canadian history of the explorers, voyageurs & Coureurs de bois is enlightening and highly educational.

Of course I don't go out in the bush here to survive, I go to enjoy nature, relax and retreat. I'll of course practice some bushcraft.

Small trip planned starting tomorrow, Off to the hunt camp, portage the canoe into a few small lakes, pull out a few bass and make a loaf of bannock. I think I'll take a can of beans too!
 

dewi

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If you watch one of the 'Making of" clips of Bear Grylls stuff you'll see they have about 8 or more people around including a producer/director telling what shots he wants. It has to be a bit Over The Top so Joe Public will find it interesting... Most of the time is will be story boarded and the main aim will be to get the shots and get the dramatic shots from a cameras perspective!!

Okay, so serious response.

That is all very well, and it would take a brave executive producer to pitch an idea based on survival/bushcraft that wasn't set up with dramatic shots and in general filled with things to make you go 'Ooo', but its been done to death.

We now have rich vs poor porn telly (no, not that type of porn) where we get to see people on benefits, and at the other end of the spectrum, people riding round in flash cars spending money on things for the sake of it. We have generally mind-numbing soap operas that play out almost daily with the same storylines hashed out over and over. Talent shows that are deliberately cruel, cookery shows that are deliberately cruel... dancing shows... well you get the idea.

There is little or no original programmes put up on the telly and whereas in days gone by millions would look forward to being genuinely entertained, the vast majority of people are now on the internet clicking away and communal viewing is reduced to ten episodes of this year's big drama (GoT, Breaking Bad etc etc)

The BBC recently put a two hour long trip along a canal. No voice over, no drama, just a camera fixed to the front of a canal barge and off down the canal for two hours. The viewing figures doubled compared to other programmes usually in that slot. Its been nicknamed 'Slow TV', but what it shows is there is an appetite for a completely different type of telly.

Grab a group of bushcrafters, send them off into the woods and film the hardwork needed to survive with minimal kit. No commentary, no drama, just the sounds of the woods and the activities by the bushcrafters. Bet it would attract a large audience without a single bushcrafter drinking his own urine, jumping into pools of water or sleeping in a camel. Show the failures as much as the successes, the sweat pouring off someone trying to start a fire using friction and if possible, the trapping and butchering of a rabbit... real stuff that really happens when you're trying to survive / live off the land.
 

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