What did the Pandemic do for you ?

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Again it's a "correlation" :D but skin colour correlates inversely with latitude very well. As far as I know nobody has presented a better reason than D3 synthesis.


That does not totally hold water but as far as I understand it is not proven upto medicinal standard, that is a different thing. The way medicinal tests handle statistics does not withstand strict scrutiny anyway. "The test is successful if no more than 50% has to be thrown away to prove the point."

They also forget that even if only gives some help it is very safe, the acute toxicity limit is huge. So there is no hurt in recommending it.


I got rid of a fairly mild case of psoriasis with it. Took a year but again the correlation is so high that one might suspect causality. To be effective it looks like greater than basic recommended amounts are needed. With those comes that additionally some Mg and vitamin K2 is a good idea.

I manage my eczema/allergic rashes/aching joints with a mix of D3/K2, a low-inflammatory diet and pine tar/birch tar soap and ointment. It works- and has taken me several years to find this combination. Up until then, I'd had an extremely intractable and painful large patch of eczema-type rash on my left foot which was often crackes and sore, and which could at times inhibit walking..... wasn't the only patch but was the worst one.... steroid creams didn't work either..... But a few months of this regime sorted it.

If I forget the D3/K2 for a few days, I see an "indicator" patch of largely latent rash on a knuckle of my left hand start to flare up....


All science is 'political'. Studies, research, publications can only be done with funding; all funding carries an agenda. Whatever side of a story you are reading, there is always a third truth :)

The "politics" can also be small-p politics where something is done to enhance career prospects. As a researcher, your career is heavily dependant on doing enough published papers, creating an incentive for quantity not quality of papers. There's also talk of a "reproducability crisis" though where findings of published papers cannot be replicated. Cochrane studies are probably the place to go to get a proper perspective of the published research on something.

I refused to take the vaccine due to it being rushed through to market so quickly without being properly tested over a suitably long time-frame that would have been necessary to determine what the long term side-effects are. Especially when you consider it worked using a totally new and previously unused mRNA technology which works in a totally different way to how all previous vaccines did before 2020.

No way under any circumstances was I going to put something so experimental and untested as mRNA into my body without there being several years of comprehensive long term side-effect data to back up the safety claims that were being made about it at the time. My resolution was absolutely rock solid and unbreakable regarding this.

This does not mean that I as antisocial in any way though. I was always very respectful of others and was extremely careful to follow social distancing and all of the other rules to the absolute T at all times. More carefully than the majority of vaccinated people did in fact. At least for the first couple of years or more until after the virus mutated several times and naturally became less dangerous. I also had respect for how potentially dangerous it could be too. Particularly the early strains at the beginning.

In late December of 2019 a bad virus was doing the rounds where I work. We will never know for certain but I suspect that this might have actually been an early strain of covid-19 that we had (there is now conclusive proof found using saved blood samples that were taken from the cadavers of people who died in December of 2019 which shows that Covid-19 was already present in parts of the UK shortly before January 2020). Assuming that what we had at work in 2019 was really covid-19 and not something else then I can attest that it was a particularly nasty virus. One of the worst I've ever had in my life in fact and I can see how something as severe as that could easily kill someone who was elderly or weak. Luckily for us we were all reasonably healthy and had good immune systems so we just felt really bad (and I do mean REALLY bad) for a week or two before recovering naturally.

Yup, it went around our sector too. A whole bunch of us were very ill over the Christmas and into the January for about 4-6 weeks. I had the worst fever dreams I'd had since I had measles as a child, and was struggling to breathe for a couple of weeks.

Just was well we'd had it, as we were in an "essential sector" so when everyone was locked down, those of us on contract were in doing the essential work...... lodging in caravans/campervans in the car park and even in a converted conference room, as the hotels were closed.... whilst the employees stayed home funded by govt. Then when lockdown ended, all of those of us contract staff who had kept things going were laid off as we were no longer "affordable" (= govt not paying for us). I learnt a hard lesson that week.......

I think if you made it through with a sense of respect and decency towards others, then that says a lot. It's important to be able to ride out storms like that without losing your integrity.

Likewise, I was always respectful of people's position and never forced my opinion on others. I was always cautious about making people uncomfortable at such a time. I was also mindful to avoid any 'them' vs 'us' polarising, tribalistic nonsense that seemed so prevalent and so easy to fall into.

To be honest, I never saw it as any of my business what medical decision people made, it's a personal choice all the way. Just as my decision was always my own.

However, I am acutely aware how hard it was for a lot of people who didn't get the shot. It was a fierce backlash, and those who stood firm in the face of it do have my respect.

This is how it should have been. I was dismayed though to see the polarisation and demonisation going on.... especially if someone didn't toe the line. Even not being out doing the sacred ritual of bashing pots for the NHS ;) was seen in some circles as deviant......

Yeah, I think we are in agreement on that?

To be clear, I never took the 'vaccine' and was all too aware how many people would see me refused access to medical care, refused employment and have me forced into compliance because of my choice.
I saw people bullied into having it by family members, I also saw people disown members of their family for not having it. Mass fear is a powerful thing, and it was a hard lesson to see how it took hold of so many people and degraded them.

Both sides of that fence behaved badly in the extremes, of course. But as far as I recall, only one side talked about forced compliance, taking away people's access to medical care, removing their children from the education system and generally stripping away their rights until they bent the knee.

I'm not bitter about it, at all, and I understand that people do crazy things when they are scared. But, at the same time, I can't just forget about it and sweep it under the rug. It should be acknowledged.

Indeed. I had the first set of jabs but none after that for what I felt was sensible reasons. But I felt it circumspect to never speak about my choice.

This was the worrying thing. Fear created a regime where dissenters became dehumanised. In spite of the veneer of modernity, we are still very close to the historical rule by mob emotion.....

Fully agree with you on that. I think you're spot on Chris.

Apologies for the reference to 'sides' on my previous post, by the way. It was a bit of a lazy/convenient way of painting the picture on my part. I'm very much against dividing people up into 'us' and 'them' type scenarios. Just talking to people (as you've often pointed out) shows that we are all usually just looking to do the best we can by our families and by each other.

But, yes your right. It's bloody incessant, are you pro-this or anti-that? Abortions, vaccines... do you love Donald Trump or despise him? Israel or Palestine? Brexit? Left-wing or Right-wing? No nuance please, just pick a side.

This is why I always value open debate and become concerned when I see that come under threat. Often, all it takes is a conversation to blow these artificially created divisions to pieces. They don't stand up to scrutiny and crumble as soon as they are questioned.

It doesn't matter to me whether or not you had a vaccine, who you vote for, where you're from, or any of it. I'd sit around the campfire with you whenever.

This is spot on...... I have largy given up watching news media because they don't cover nuance.... just promote a tribal approach.

No need for the apology, I knew what you were getting at.

It’s a relentless onslaught. How on Earth are we supposed to be fully educated on, or even have a thoughtful opinion on all these things? You and I can’t solve Gaza, Brexit, Gender, Trump, Immigration and so on and so on. But it sure is convenient for some that we fight about it, distracting us from those who pillage the environment, our rights, our freedoms and even our ability to find the truth.

I’m so completely done with it. My stand against it is that I refuse to be set against my fellow human unless they directly show me that they want to hurt me.

Likewise it’d be a pleasure to sit around a campfire with you, who I am supposed to apparently hate for making a personal choice about your own healthcare. The glow of the campfire burns all that nonsense away.

I was reminiscing recenty with someone of my age and we were reflecting that there was a time not so very long ago when we could sit around the table over a meal (or around a campfire) and discuss things like this, seeing the nuances, discussing the different perspectives without ceasing to be friends, without brandign the peson as "evil" because they held a different view from us. We could each respect that the other had a different view and see all the shades of grey that real-life situations always contain- and remain friends.

That polarising of pretty much everything into a dualistic "good vs evil" theology is a trend that I believe was accelerated and brought to fruition by the COVID response. It's not a legacy that I welcome, and I hope that there's still enough people about who can sit around the campfire, discuss different perspectives but still remain friends.

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Besides the political divide and conquer, all forms of the media are desperate for junk content to talk about and thereby to make money out of.
Shock, Horror!, Division, Bad News of all Sorts! attracts and sells/makes profits.
What they do not want to do, is use time and effort to do proper investigation, come up with something new or serious thought, or focus on the things that really matter. Even the ones who claim to do so don't - shock jock journalists masquerading as serious commentators. Ditto Panorama and the other ones using the same dramatic tactics and have been caught out numerous times.

I would'nt necessarily put Private Eye in that bracket, besides all the funny and satirical stuff , they uncover lots of stuff that the big media should be making a noise about. They also make sure they get their facts right, because so many of those exposed try to shut them down with legal action.
 
It's not a legacy that I welcome, and I hope that there's still enough people about who can sit around the campfire, discuss different perspectives but still remain friends.

GC
This is a wonderful community the members of this forum have built here. I particularly admire the way you can have differences of opinion, sometimes quite passionately and yet you never let it become personal or descend into name calling or anything nasty like that.

It is such a rare and refreshing thing to see on the internet these days. You should all give yourselves a pat on the back for the friendly and respectful way in which you conduct yourselves. (hopefully that didn't come across as being condescending)
 
This is a wonderful community the members of this forum have built here. I particularly admire the way you can have differences of opinion, sometimes quite passionately and yet you never let it become personal or descend into name calling or anything nasty like that.

It is such a rare and refreshing thing to see on the internet these days. You should all give yourselves a pat on the back for the friendly and respectful way in which you conduct yourselves. (hopefully that didn't come across as being condescending)

TBH HorseGuy, we have had the odd rattle being thrown out of the pram over the years :)
 
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Oh we have indeed, but on the whole, the entire forum quietly ticks along in a very reasonable manner.
Everyone's different, we all live different lives, etc., but on the whole folks are happy to ask, to listen, to explain, to help, and it's friendly too.

Not quite back on the original topic, but this came up in my email feed this morning, and is somewhat relevant.
WHO have just issued new guidelines about arbovirus'....those are zika, dengue, yellow fever and chikungunya.....now appearing in areas where they have not been known before.
 
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On a personal level I had a couple of colleagues and acquaintances who died following COVID but it changed my attitude to how I work which has resulted in me spending more time with my family. On a societal level I feel that people are more contrary, less reserved and less caring, but this could have already been in process and only highlighted due to the pandemic.
 
We decamped fairly early to what you might term one of our "bug out" locations, one of the initial factors in the decision being simply that it was more fun to look out the window there than it was at home (well, one of our homes, we've two, first world problems). It very quickly became evident that the locals weren't paying a great deal of attention to restrictions and as I result I spent more time clocking in a pub than I ever have before or since. It convinced me of the absolute necessity of public houses for the continuity of community (even for a virtual outsider) and the absolute ease with which one could slip into alcohol dependency. I do remember also a lifelong friend telling me via FB messenger that I'd been waiting for something like this to happen all my life, and I must be "reveling in it". There was a frank exchange of views there and I don't think we'll ever be quite as friendly as we were again.

There were also some personal revelations, my Mrs. is very social, she's involved in an awful lot of things that aren't work and aren't family related... Me, not so much, I'm quite content with my own company generally and I don't socialise a lot. I felt the initial impact of losing my couple of regular interactions with others a lot harder than she did, to the point I considered doing silly things. In that alone, it was a useful experience.
 
Life did go on as normal (fewer people at work, as many worked from home).
Got two shots, got covid anyway, twice. Nothing more severe than any other chinese flues that come and go yearly.
As the play; Much ado about nothing.

Funny story.
I have a second home about 1,5 hours drive from my city house, in a valley with about 1000 people (spread out over 40 km).
I usually spend every day off from work there.
Some of the locals went batshit crazy and wrote on facebook; Don`t come over here spreading the flue. All of you city folks better stay home.
When the flue did entered the valley it was the locals themselves, visiting the city, who brought it in.
Oh the irony.
 
It gave me a resentment toward government. Probably too many things to list. Some things that stick in my mind is trying to stop families from seeing each other at Christmas, they failed we us, I went and spent Christmas with my mum like I do every year! Turning people against people, literally telling us to report our neighbours!

When I did have Covid, I had driven to a drive through test centre to do a test, the test came back positive for Covid. The day I got the results, I had a phone call demanding me to download their app which I refused. They got pretty demanding but I kept saying no, to which they told me they'll send somebody around my house if I don't download their app. I put the phone down on them and thought 'yeah, sure you will'. Within the hour I had a man knock on my door and demand that I download their app, again very, very demanding. I can't remember if I told him to f*ck off but I'm pretty sure I did. He told me hew was going to get the police to pay me a visit as he walked off. Again, I thought 'sure you will'. Less than an hour goes by and there's another knock at the door and it's two police officers. I was pretty gobsmacked. They told me they were visiting me because I was refusing to give details to these people (who phone me and then visited my address). To be fair to the officers, they were very polite, and you could tell they were fed up and did not want to be there. I explained that they had all of my details, they literally phoned me and visited my address, and that it was actually their app I was refusing to download. They just said they can see that I'm home and isolating and said get well soon and left. I never had another phone call or house visit.
 
It gave me a resentment toward government. Probably too many things to list. Some things that stick in my mind is trying to stop families from seeing each other at Christmas, they failed we us, I went and spent Christmas with my mum like I do every year! Turning people against people, literally telling us to report our neighbours!

When I did have Covid, I had driven to a drive through test centre to do a test, the test came back positive for Covid. The day I got the results, I had a phone call demanding me to download their app which I refused. They got pretty demanding but I kept saying no, to which they told me they'll send somebody around my house if I don't download their app. I put the phone down on them and thought 'yeah, sure you will'. Within the hour I had a man knock on my door and demand that I download their app, again very, very demanding. I can't remember if I told him to f*ck off but I'm pretty sure I did. He told me hew was going to get the police to pay me a visit as he walked off. Again, I thought 'sure you will'. Less than an hour goes by and there's another knock at the door and it's two police officers. I was pretty gobsmacked. They told me they were visiting me because I was refusing to give details to these people (who phone me and then visited my address). To be fair to the officers, they were very polite, and you could tell they were fed up and did not want to be there. I explained that they had all of my details, they literally phoned me and visited my address, and that it was actually their app I was refusing to download. They just said they can see that I'm home and isolating and said get well soon and left. I never had another phone call or house visit.

That’s utterly outrageous mate. Well done for sticking to your guns with the app, that’s an insane attempt at overreach on their part. Glad to hear the police were sensible about it.

I assume they didn’t consider the fact that all of this needlessly directly exposed three people to someone they specifically knew to have Covid.
 
That’s utterly outrageous mate. Well done for sticking to your guns with the app, that’s an insane attempt at overreach on their part. Glad to hear the police were sensible about it.

I assume they didn’t consider the fact that all of this needlessly directly exposed three people to someone they specifically knew to have Covid.
I thought it was crazy then, and I still think it was crazy now. I'm not much of a conspiracy theorist at all but they sure were pushing me to download their app. I don't know if these visits were common if you refused their app, I've never really spoken about this experience with anyone.
 
If I remember rightly our then Prime Minister was reeling from an onslaught of criticism of his “World Beating” Test, Track and Trace system that simply didn’t work.
Clearly he wasn’t using it or else it would have provided evidence in the subsequent non-enquiry.

It hasn’t changed my view of government a bit. I maintain the same view as I have of the last twelve administrations.
 
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I can remember the exact month because I bought a Sofirn head torch off Amazon while I was laying in bed with Covid which arrived on the 19th (checked my order history) so it was the first half of August sometime.
 
First I've heard of this Exercise Pegasus.

"Emergency service teams, local councils and government officials will take part in a full, multi-day pandemic preparedness exercise, to help the UK prepare for potential future threats.

The test, which is likely to take place in the autumn, will involve thousands of people across different parts of the UK, minister Pat McFadden has announced.

The plans come in response to the first set of recommendations made by the Covid-19 Inquiry - the ongoing public inquiry into the handling of the pandemic.

The chair of the inquiry, Baroness Hallett, found the UK was "ill-prepared" for the coronavirus pandemic, and "failed" its citizens."

 
I thought it was crazy then, and I still think it was crazy now. I'm not much of a conspiracy theorist at all but they sure were pushing me to download their app. I don't know if these visits were common if you refused their app, I've never really spoken about this experience with anyone.
I didn't download the app.
 

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