what 4x4

[quarterstaff]

Hi all.
I am need of a new car and have always fancied a 4x4.I have narrowed it down to 3.
1 Land rover dicovery
2 daihatsu four track
3 jeep cherokee

as you can see i am not after a full on "off roader" but the best of both worlds(if this is possable).I've got around 4k to spend,must be diesel and reliable.
What do you guy's think,any and all advice greatlly recieved.
cheers

 

[bushwacker bob]

:yikes: forget the diatsu four track. :rolmao: :rolmao:
Disco mk2 is ok and for your money you can get a good deal on used jeeps,they tend to have even larger petrol engines than landies and the spares are not as easy to come by.
My personal choice would be the discovery with a td5 diesel lump to offer some sort of economy.

 

[slyfox]

I would agree with bushwacker bob,
apart from the Td5 (the british army cant be wrong) stick to a 300Tdi.(wolf)
Mk2 series 1 disco or defender( bullet proof)

 

[Richie]

I think that you would be pushed to get a good disco for around 4k as they seem to be holding price well.

I used to have a petrol Jeep which was great apart from the 14 miles to the gallon :yikes: yes £10 for every 50 miles.
I would go for the diesel version for sure. you should be able to get a N, P plate if you look around.

Richie

 

[bothyman]

How about one of these??

>> http://www.2cv4x4.com/

And yes I do own a 2CV and this one is the ultimate offroader without paying silly money :wave:

 

[dtalbot]

One more to consider,
Suzuki Grand Vitara TD. Nice and comfy, proper ladder frame chassis so it does off road properly and ours does in the high 40s to the gallon.
Cheers
David

 

[MartiniDave]

I didn't know anyone other than Land Rover made 4x4's! ):

Seriously though, I've heard of people getting Discoveries at amazing bargain prices, especially the earlier ones. My everyday cay is a Discovery 300TDi,bought with 42,000 miles on the clock that now has 135,000+ on the clock. Reliability has been pretty good, apart from a timing belt failure at 72k miles (just takes out the valve push rods) and a valve adjusting screw in the engine failing at 108k miles. The chassis is as good as the day it left the factory. Last year we had a weeks off roading holiday in southern France, the disco was hammered 900 miles on the motorway to the camp site, the only preparation it got for the off roading was to unload our gear and fill it with fuel. We drove some places I don't think I could even walk! The vehicle is factory standard (so far). I think I'll be keeping it for a few more years yet as I'm not too sure about the TD5 engine in the Mk2 Disco. I get about 30 mpg.

I've no real experience of the other 4x4's, apart from a good mate has a fourtrack, which he is chuffed with but I'm really not keen on, it seems very crude to me, and that's coming from a series 3 driver!

Try looking through the specialist magazines such as Land Rover Owner and Land Rover Enthusiast.

Dave

 

[maddave]

Get a Mitsubishi Delica !!

With all due respect The MOD have a LOAD of money and resources to throw at landrovers and they're a bit past it now. Disco's are renowned for failing bodywork, defenders for poor comfort and there are very few decent landies available (unless youre loaded). Go look at a few Deli's they're a 4x4 8 seater MPV with aircon , power steering excellent engines and bodywork (ours even came with a fridge and suede seats as standard all for £3200). They are basically a Shogun with an L200 body. Ask Andylaser what they're like!!

But each to their own..... Go check out landies too (I did) and the Jeeps and such. Happy hunting

 

[bothyman]

>>>>> Get a Mitsubishi Delica !!


The only thing I don't like about them is that they all seem to be automatics??


:?:

 

[steve a]

I have a MkII Disco TD5 with 34k on the clock, reliabilty has been good, and so it should be with that mileage, I get about 30 mpg. Only problem I've had is the case hardening failed on the rear disks, and a slight coming together with an unmarked police car :yikes: I won the argument on the road, they won the insurance claim.
I was not aware of any major problems with the bodywork though.
If you go down the Landrover road try and get one with as much service history as possible and take someone along who knows something about them. There are plenty of Disco's out there so don't rush and take your time selecting. Main dealer service costs can be high but that goes for most makes nowdays.
Tomorrow morning we are off to the Ardeche for two weeks which will be about a 1500 mile round trip, hope to spend time on the river but it may be packed with tourists !! unfortunatley forced to go at this time of year to tie in with the kids school holidays.

 

[MartiniDave]

MadDave,

Looks like you've got a replacement for you write off. Hope the insurers played fair with you and you keep this one straight. Enjoy!

Dave - also possibly a bit mad!

 

[Lurch]

Get a Mitsubishi Delica !!

They're a bit (how to put this!) continental?

 

[ANDYLASER]

Big thumbs up for the Mitzi Delica. There are manual versions about, but not loads. Very comfy and easy to drive. Plus you get to look down on Range Rovers

 

[maddave]

They're a bit (how to put this!) continental?

): :rolmao:

You mean they look like a scooby doo bus !! lol :biggthump

 

[bushwacker bob]

Maddave improved his first one.
checkout this thread
http://www.bushcraftuk.net/community/showthread.php?t=2433

 

[Lurch]

Duff link Bob.

 

[bushwacker bob]

Sorted. should work now.

 

[quarterstaff]

Thanks for the reply's.
So far i am leaning to wards the jeep,looks good for the price,but i cant seem to stop looking at disco's.
I'm off on me hol's next week so the search starts proper when i get back.
Again thanks for the help.
cheers

 

[Lurch]

Bizarrely (sp?) I saw my first ever Delica today!
Much better to look at in the metal.

 

[Quill]

Steve; does your Disco have a diesel engine? The 30mpg. sounds good. My Grand Cherokee falls way short at 18mpg. Not that it isn't a good 4x4 and I have had several different kinds over the years. I wish there were more diesels available here.