Warning description added to fair game and question

[Tony]

I've changed the description slightly to add a warning to the fair game forum. I would like to see more content in this area and want people/you to feel comfortable posting it here. Obviously, it needs to be in keeping with bushcraft/homesteading and be appropriately presented.

That makes me consider changing the Fair Game forum to signed-in members only, any visitor can view most forums, but that's probably unwise considering this subject matter.
Any thoughts?

 

[Wildgoose]

I think given the upcoming changes to legislation around children accessing certain media it would be a good idea to restrict this area to members.

I personally have no issues with guns or game but a layperson might

 

[Pattree]

Yeah. It’s a good idea.

 

[crosslandkelly]

Sounds like a very sensible move.

 

[Chris]

Sounds reasonable. Unfortunately the reality is that people find it offensive, but not plastic trays full of meat that got raised in a cage and slaughtered en mass.

 

[Nice65]

I reckon this is 100% your call Tony. It was me who opened the suture thread on an iPhone Mini and saw a thigh, badly cut and bloody and complained the pic should have come with a warning or better, use Spoiler tags to hide the immediate impact. I actually had no idea I was looking at pig skin, or that it wasn’t a genuine wound to a human leg. As such, it wasn’t what I wanted or expected to look at eating breakfast.

Where meat comes from, especially game, perhaps ought not to be censored? Might be worth looking at a couple of the hunting and stalking forums to see what’s accessible to anyone without membership?

I like these hide tags:

Spoiler: Dodgy meme warning

 

[British Red]

I tend to only post occasionally in Fair Game Tone purely to not drag you into the pearl clutching outbursts of the squeamish. We hunt, pluck & skin, dress out & butcher wild meat & also raise livestock that we slaughter & butcher (we are even starting to stock home slaughter equipment). Do let us know where the boundary is & we will post more

 

[Pattree]

Limit the subject to members, leave tagging to the author and the forum title and you won’t need boundaries.

I have no objection to informative posts on hunting, culling or butchery but I can’t help thinking that from time to time a post can be deliberately provocative.

 

[TeeDee]

Limit the subject to members, leave tagging to the author and the forum title and you won’t need boundaries.

I have no objection to informative posts on hunting, culling or butchery but I can’t help thinking that from time to time a post can be deliberately provocative.

If someone finds something provocative isn't that more down to the person reading it?

How does one post something so another doesn't find it provocative? Genuine question - are you talking about the related words used or headline title - if so what words should be used to be neutral?

 

[Tengu]

Im unhappy with a world that had trigger warnings.

 

[Crac]

I would change the tone to read: "Contains: Animal trapping, butchery and cooking are discussed here. If you do not like seeing this content, please avoid this forum."

 

[slowworm]

I would change the tone to read: "Contains: Animal trapping, butchery and cooking are discussed here. If you do not like seeing this content, please avoid this forum."

That sounds better, you could add the word killing before butchery, but I wouldn't use the word 'gore' as Tony has now as that sounds a bit too violent for violence sake.

 

[Toddy]

Years ago we had an issue with a long term member getting hassle from the staff in his Uni library because he had opened the forum while there....and the thread he opened had 'dead animals! :' where other people could see them.

To us, meat is real, it's not something that comes only in neat plastic trays in supermarkets. Skin is real, hide needs processed, etc., bone makes good tools, and so on.
Same with firearms. There's always someone who'll complain.

The reality is that I try to give folks a heads up and if they open Fair Game well it's up to them to be aware of any potential issues from folks reading over their shoulders.
That's why I occasionally shift a thread, and I always do tell the original poster why I have done so.
It's just one of those quiet things, that are mostly accepted by the membership, as just part of the forum.

It's getting harder to just use a knife as a tool, even I have become wary of doing so among people I don't know, or where I'll be seen using it by people I don't know.

World's gone crazy

I'd much rather see more threads, of all aspects of bushcraft, than see us limited.
If that means that the Fair Game forum needs a membership to open and read; well, fair enough.

 

[Brizzlebush]

It's a funny one.

Is, this sadly is the world we live in today? I'm not so sure. Perhaps it always was?

I agree with the fact that this community, and myself, accepts killing as a part of life, and the place animals have in our food, clothing and tools. I don't have a problem with butchery or killing animals for the pot.

I once deliberately gave a class of year 10s a whole chicken, each, instead of butchered meat so they understood, a little more, where their food came from.
Some were freaked out some weren't. And this is the thing about humans, as we know, there's not a one size fits all approach, I think that's where the madness starts.

It feels to me like the internet is bigger than billboards around a town/city, and, this forum's content can be publicly accessed without restriction. So there is a sort of similarity there, in the free availability at least.
The difference is, you'll need to look for it, online. Rather than billboards on the high street, where you have no choice, grrr.

There have been, and continue to be, some provocative campaigns by pet charities, animal rights etc over the years, on billboards, which are designed to shock you into a reaction. So then images you're not expecting to see have an impact. They're not labelled, with a warning. But they're trying to make a point and provoke you into doing something.

I know people posting here aren't trying to provoke a reaction with their images, they're usually just trying to be educational, or in some cases just showing off. Should educational content be removed from the internet? (I'm being slightly facetious here).
So if one was to stumble upon these images unannounced, it could be more shocking, no?

These images are of course freely available online if you want to search for them, like anything else. I just think it's when you find something unexpected, that you don't like, it's far more impactful. Particularly if the viewer is already sensitised to that sort of material.

I saw a presentation by a war photographer once who warned us when there was upsetting images coming along. I didn't want to graphically see maimed bodies, so I'm glad he did. But that's me, someone else might not have a problem with that.

I think my point is, humans are all different, and censorship is a very tricky line to walk.

That said, if you've read the warning and still complain, I don't have any sympathy!