Gotta be kidding, My phone is 10 years old and my laptop is a hand me down that runs on gas....I likes to keep my monies fors The Precious..
Very expensive knives.
- Thread starter crosslandkelly
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It's all in the marketing and advertisement.
And you get what you think you pay for when buying stuff like this. Hence why most people will laugh right in your face if you told them you paid £600 for knife!
And you get what you think you pay for when buying stuff like this. Hence why most people will laugh right in your face if you told them you paid £600 for knife!
It is all about demand.
If no-one wants an item the price stays low to try and re-coop the cost of making it, if you have a huge number of people who want the product "just to be just like that bloke on telly" then the cost goes up and doubly so if the product is made to the specs of the name of the telly guy. (In part to reduce demand so the maker can actually produce all of the orders and in part 'cos he has to make money on what the maker charged)
This is why companies get tv/film stars to promote their product, to increase sales.
The quality could be the mutts nuts or worth less than the invoice paper it is printed on, but, people will pay what they perceive to be value for money.
I would like a RM badged knife, I like him and his media output, but I am not going to buy at the inflated price due to "wannabe" causes, first hand or second hand just as I will not buy from Gerber due to their use of a certain person as a sales ploy.
I do not buy into any of it.
Plenty of good, honest, skilled and bushcraft minded knife makers out there who could make a bespoke knife for you for less than a second hand RM type.
Rob.
If no-one wants an item the price stays low to try and re-coop the cost of making it, if you have a huge number of people who want the product "just to be just like that bloke on telly" then the cost goes up and doubly so if the product is made to the specs of the name of the telly guy. (In part to reduce demand so the maker can actually produce all of the orders and in part 'cos he has to make money on what the maker charged)
This is why companies get tv/film stars to promote their product, to increase sales.
The quality could be the mutts nuts or worth less than the invoice paper it is printed on, but, people will pay what they perceive to be value for money.
I would like a RM badged knife, I like him and his media output, but I am not going to buy at the inflated price due to "wannabe" causes, first hand or second hand just as I will not buy from Gerber due to their use of a certain person as a sales ploy.
I do not buy into any of it.
Plenty of good, honest, skilled and bushcraft minded knife makers out there who could make a bespoke knife for you for less than a second hand RM type.
Rob.
Unfortunately true ... I "dissed" the WS and said that a knife just needs a good strong edge and a good strong point - none of the gadgets - and soon after the Woodlore hit the market ....
At the time I did not realise that Raymond had designed the WS...
The Survival Club had good deals on the WS - I chose to buy the Peltonen instead ... and still have it!
I understand that Peltonens are also "collectable" and worth good money. I use mine...
Learning from mistakes and listening to criticism is a bad thing?Well i guess that pops the fantasy bubble about Ray designing the knife
No, but having one of our own be the big factor behind the most popular design in 'bushcraft' these days, kind of brings home the humble pie.. No offence John.
And that RM WS knife thing was hilariously Rambo-esque. A cool and remember-able collectable, but an outright demonstration of the evolution of necessity and the maturity of design development.
(It's like that bear grylls guy coming out with a guide to homesteading whereas he's seemingly only shown a lust for loud/drink a snake skin full of your own urine type entertainment previously. Evolved into modesty, as it were..)
I dunno, seems a bit unlikely that RM designed the WS knife as a his main user then quickly went straight to the woodlore after a poor review in a magazine (i assume it was in a mag?)
Also, "good strong edge and a good strong point" would hardly qualify as a knife "design"
No offence meant to yourself mr fenna
Also, "good strong edge and a good strong point" would hardly qualify as a knife "design"
No offence meant to yourself mr fenna
My "review" was a phone discussion with "Raymond" at the Survival Club offices not in a mag.
I was asked what I thought of the WS knife. I told him in no uncertain terms ( I had turned down the oportunity to do a magazine review as I thought the WS knife a joke!). I then went on to describe my ideal knife in detail.
He may have taken my opinions on board or not - it is just I found the timing interesting...
The woodlore knife story.... by AW himself...
http://www.alanwoodknives.com/the-woodlore-knife-story.html
http://www.alanwoodknives.com/the-woodlore-knife-story.html
John,
i just found the two knives so different, it seems a bit strange for him to go from thinking the dartmoor was the best everyday belt knife to the oh so different woodlore
As i remember it (i was quite young) the dartmoor was designed as a "survival" knife in the crashed air crew sense
The woodlore of course being the everyday belt knife for bushcrafters
That suggests to me there was always gonna be a woodlore of some description. So i suppose the question is......how close is the woodlore to what you described, and did you ever review or own one?
Also, while i'm on the subject and just out of interest. does anyone know if mr mears had a favored knife before the woodlore?
i just found the two knives so different, it seems a bit strange for him to go from thinking the dartmoor was the best everyday belt knife to the oh so different woodlore
As i remember it (i was quite young) the dartmoor was designed as a "survival" knife in the crashed air crew sense
The woodlore of course being the everyday belt knife for bushcrafters
That suggests to me there was always gonna be a woodlore of some description. So i suppose the question is......how close is the woodlore to what you described, and did you ever review or own one?
Also, while i'm on the subject and just out of interest. does anyone know if mr mears had a favored knife before the woodlore?
Surely expensive is a matter of perspective?
Some people pay £50+ to watch a single game of football. Others pay that amount every month for Sky TV.
Compared to those I think a few hundred for an item that lasts a lifetime is dirt cheap!
Some people pay £50+ to watch a single game of football. Others pay that amount every month for Sky TV.
Compared to those I think a few hundred for an item that lasts a lifetime is dirt cheap!
I have a few top end expensive knives and i use them pretty much daily for all manner of campcraft and bushcraft activities. i can do the same tasks with a frosts mora and i often do. Some of the prices knives are now commanding are beyond my budget so its unlikely i will be buying any famous names any time soon.
That said if something really took my fancy i might stump up the credits.
If you want to look at stupid priced kit then take a look at the Target Archery World. I tried to convince a woman for 2 hours that she didnt need to spend £300 on a new riser. What she needed was some coaching and to work on her skills. Someone at her club had told her the answer to her problem was a new bit of kit so she was determined to spend big to perform. Sadly £300 poorer and she will still miss until she sorts out the issue.
That said if something really took my fancy i might stump up the credits.
If you want to look at stupid priced kit then take a look at the Target Archery World. I tried to convince a woman for 2 hours that she didnt need to spend £300 on a new riser. What she needed was some coaching and to work on her skills. Someone at her club had told her the answer to her problem was a new bit of kit so she was determined to spend big to perform. Sadly £300 poorer and she will still miss until she sorts out the issue.
I have had the pleasure and luck of playing with and own a few very nicely made custom pieces. Give me a high end knife tell me it's never been used and is a safe queen my response be really now?! As I'm batoning the snot out of it. I get knives to be users I'm it an investment collector. Hey to me it falls under if you got the grand to spend on one by all means don't let me stop you. Chances are I'll have at most a 100 buck knife on my belt and one made by a friend of mine at that. More times than not I grab my old trusty friend my mora clipper 840 mg. She has served me very well over the years. Sure a few higher end makers I'd love to get my hands on just don't have the funds at the moment. Expensive knives are like any other piece of pricey gear if ya got it buy it and enjoy using it
Very interesting article that particularly where Alan mentions that if the item is not held in the hand by the maker at every stage from beginning to end it can't be called a handmade knife, basically echoes what I mentioned earlier.
Well, based on that, i can safely say then that all my knives are handmade by myself. No laser cutting, no sending out to be heat treated etc.
Good man yourself, that's what I call a genuine craftsman and worthy of respect, that is definitely something to be proud of! Well done!
