US GI Modular sleeping system / China made !!

[Urwaljaeger]

Yes, may be some money too much. These MSS´s are pretty unknown here in Scandinavia and so are the prices.
But I wanted them just (s)now
And I don´t even think these MFH-made bags are for sale in the states because of the local belief in Tennier originals.
If they were they should not go as knock-off-copys. We are not talking about them here at all.
MFH is a new european "Tennier" and I think we have to realize that.

 

[WeThePeoplexfbm]

every think is china/japan made these days ... oh well ^^

 

[screwdriver]

mfh international manufacture direct for the german armed forces and supply the latest version para boot ,a haix ksk3000 manufactured by them under license, which has now replaced the older lowa version boot

 

[Andy BB]

Does the US Army/Tennier etc make these bags in different sizes - eg like the British Army Long for example?

 

[Urwaljaeger]

No they do not. Just 210 cm lenght and that is just a bit short for longer people like me, but it works (the US-made cold waeather bag, not the MFH-made that is less spacious in the feet end).

 

[testxxx777]

Hi,
anyone tried this chinese version outdoor? i have by it and now regret, it's braked after first usadge - connection black and green parts.(also green part have some defects). in my opinion it's not worth buying (maybe someone have other experience).
think that it's just a copy of american version (about american version heard only good words, ofcourse not related to weight and size ).. now thinking about other sleeping bag, because can't relay on that brokes home and bring such sleeping bag to extreme situation is too much risk.

 

[rik_uk3]

Does the US Army/Tennier etc make these bags in different sizes - eg like the British Army Long for example?

Yes, they do standard and a long version.

 

[Urwaljaeger]

It would be interesting to see pics or info about the Tennier MSS long version.

 

[santaman2000]

Yes, they do standard and a long version.

If the US Army has a long version it would have a seperate NSN. They only issue a single size. If there is a long version out there it ain't real GI. It may well be made by Tennier though. Even "tall" size shirts have to be specially ordered from the manufacturers when I go to my base's Military Clothing Sales Store and it takes months for a supplemental contract to be issued.

 

[rik_uk3]

If the US Army has a long version it would have a seperate NSN. They only issue a single size. If there is a long version out there it ain't real GI. It may well be made by Tennier though. Even "tall" size shirts have to be specially ordered from the manufacturers when I go to my base's Military Clothing Sales Store and it takes months for a supplemental contract to be issued.

I'll ask in my next email for the NSN numbers off the guy who uses it in the States and let you know what he says. I tried the standard issue and at 5'11" I found it too snug; talking to an American he mentioned he had the 'long'.

 

[johnboy]

Here you go this might help from Tennier's website:


# Camo Green Patrol Bag- NSN # 8465-01-398-0685, X-long NSN # 8465-01-452-1688
# Black Intermediate Bag-NSN # 8465-01-398-0687, X-Long NSN # 8465-01-452-1690
# Woodland Camouflage Waterproof Bivy Cover-NSN # 8465-01-416-8517, X-Long NSN # 8465-01-452-1695

 

[screwdriver]

im not suprised to hear about the poor quality of the mfh version.
as i mentioned i have a new pair of their latest issue german para boot and compared to the old lowa version its absolute rubbish and leaks like a seive, the breathtex liner is useless.
this boot is a haix ksk3000 made under lisense by mfh for the german army but ive compared it to the origional and its dire indeed, looks like the german army is cost cutting

 

[Minotaur]

I would be amazed if anything used by the US military was made abroad!

Baretta 92 had to be made in the US, or they did not get the deal.

Be really interested to know, is this the same as the US Marine one, and if not anyone got any feedback on that set up. Have heard it brillant.

 

[screwdriver]

i would say that looking at the mfh website that this is just a replica sold by them and has nothing to do with the genuine american version

 

[jpgrilo]

Hello all

I have bought a modular GI sleeping from the same company Max-Fuchs(directly from them) but i think mine as a different reference http://www.max-fuchs.de/cgi-bin/iboshop.cgi?showd1230,,631170. This item is listed as "601-644 Original Army" "All used and new original army articles! (Without stock balance information!)" . I bought the sleeping bag as used but came in very good condition.

The first thing i made after i reading this topic was to check my sleeping bag and confirm the labels . I could not find any label saying “made in china” .

Where is the photos of each component.

Stucf sack

Patrol bag

Intermediate Cold

This item is the only one that have me abit confused. The original intermediate cold sleeping bag of this version (woodland) as black, but this one it gray/silver that correspond to the new ACU version of the system. My ideia is that the black one was not in good conditions so the swapped it with this one. T


Bivy cover

Best regards

 

[jpgrilo]

Just a quick update with the detailed NSN Codes

Intermediate Cold - NSN w9124q-05-d-0826
Patrol - 8465-01-445-6274
Bivy - 8465-01-445-6274
Stuff - 8465-01-398-5428

 

[santaman2000]

I would be amazed if anything used by the US military was made abroad!

Baretta 92 had to be made in the US, or they did not get the deal.

Be really interested to know, is this the same as the US Marine one, and if not anyone got any feedback on that set up. Have heard it brillant.

You should have heard the uproar a few years ago when the Army found out that their supplier had outsourced the berets to China. LOL That said the Berettas was for a more practical reason. It's not a good idea to depend on a foriegn source for actual weapons or repair parts. Changing politics could easily end your supplies. As far as the berets though, that was a much less important issue of pride and job loss.

 

[Urwaljaeger]

After testing the system out in the northern forest I realized that my problem isn´t that the bags might not be as good as the original US made stuff.
I´m 6,1" and I had a hard time as the system felt way too short for my size. The insulation was alright though but I really need longer bags.
So now I ordered the x-long versions from militaryissue.com and wait for them to arrive. Will try to make the regular bivy bag to fit these longer bags
but I think that will be a problem. Been searching the web for the x-long woodland or ACU bivy bag (NSN # 8465-01-452-1695) without any result. Wade at militaryissue
did not have them. Does anybody at the forum know where to get them. I guess Tennier don´t sell to private buyers...
/ Olle