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New at the forums so I´d like to say Hello to you all :)
I have bought a new MSS sleeping bag from a Ebay store in Germany. The Bivy Bag is original an made by Tennier Industries but the both sleeping bags and the stuff sack is made by "MFH INT. COMP." and there is a Made in China label underneath the normal green large instruction and NSN-number tags on both the sleeping bags.
This producer is a wholesale business i Bavaria, Germany (Max Fuchs organisation).
Now I blame my self for beeing FUBAR enough to buy this system from this seller and I am worrying about the quality.
Question: Is there anyone who knows about these china made USMSS-sleeping bags? Are they not as good as the originals?
Should I send it back? Payed 199 euro plus shipping...
Please help me out :yikes:
 
If you're not happy with it send it back..seems a bit expensive to me too but then im not sure what 199eu is in uk£'s.
I doubt they are up to the quality of the us made ones though.

Like the Eidelweiss!
 
Payed 166 pounds for these MSS bags.
They feel nice and thick but I am not shure :p
Waiting for another system that I purchased from USA
after the one from Germany. Do really hope that´s 100% Tennier made :confused: and if so I can compare them both...
 
The german seller describes the MSS in the same way as the originals.
Here is a link to the store in Germany:
http://cgi.ebay.de/Army-Schlafsack-M...item3f01eb3bf5
There are pictures on the separate bags if you only click on for instance the
patrol bag and the cold weather bag.
I can´t put out some pics of my stuff because I´m new at the forum :)
 
I'm just looking at my black winter bag, it's the Tennier Industries one I've had for a couple years, definately the real deal. On the bottom of the bag it's got a green label sewn on that says

Modular Sleeping Bag
Intermediate Cold
SP0100 03-D-4047
8465-01-445-6274
Tennier Industries Inc.

It then goes into detail with 'Instructions For Use'

I hope this helps, if you have any questions just ask and I'll get them out properly and take pictures if need be.

Chad
 
I just had a conversation with the dealer in Germany who says:
"we get the sleeping bag from our manufacturers: MFH (Max Fuchs) and he has the license to produce the sleeping bag!
According to the MFH of this sleeping-bag system is the quality better than the original!
Printed on my Coldweather bag tag:
MODULAR SLEEPING BAG INTERMEDIATE COLD WEATHER
(ICW) TYPE II
Contract No: SP0200-99-D-0607
8465-01-398-0687
MFH INT. COMP.
Underneath small tag: Fabric: Nylon Padding: Polyester
Made in China
All the zips are YKK and everything looks very well done.
Maybe this is a Super Copy?????
 
I don't know if it's better or not but mine has none of the following on it;

MFH INT. COMP.
Underneath small tag: Fabric: Nylon Padding: Polyester
Made in China

Let us know what you think when you try it in some cold weather.
 
It should say Tennier Industries Inc on the genuine ones, but if yours is made under license then it might not necessarily be a bad thing.

Looks legit to me ..
http://www.max-fuchs.de/cgi-bin/iboshop.cgi?showd640,,31175

A lot of top end gear is produced in Asia these days so I say give it a try. If the finish and quality are poor then send it back, probably worth looking at the stitch lines inside and out.
 
Here are some pics of my new MFH-made US GI Modular Sleeping System (Licensed by US Government to Max Fuchs in Germany and produced in China).
Seemes like the Tennier-made ones in every detail. Will have one new MSS bought in the USA in the mail tomorrow and will then be able to compare.














 
Yes. One for my Wify too :)
The reason for why I bought the other one from the states was a lower price.
 
Ooh! Shiny! Looking forward to the results of the comparison. I'm sure they're both fine to be honest. When will you be trying them out?
 
We will use both the bags during the rest of the winter and the winter-spring.
Up here today just -10 but colder times are ahead :)
Will post pics.
 
So here is my USGI MSS Review part 1 / Indoor-comparing the MFH(China-made) and the Tennier-made bags and compression sack.

First: The Tennier bags just arrived from LA so they might have been a bit uncompressed when the photos were taken.
Basicly: There are some differens in the ripstop nylon fabric used and the filling. Cold weather bag: The camera flash unveils a slight violet tone in the fabric used by MFH.
The Tennier bag is just black. But Tennier used the same fabric as MFH in the foot of the bag. Maybe it is more waterproof? If so, the whole
MFH bag might have a bit better moisture resistance. The MFH bag has a filling with lots of volume and the bag feels fluffy and soft.
The Tenniers filling is more sturdy and the bag is less deformable.
Patrol bag: A bit less difference here but the MFH bag has a more shiny surface.
Color just the same but the Tennier bag is a bit lighter OD.
Filling is very much the same but the MFH bag is bigger and at the head there is better space and width.
Seams and details are very good on all these bags and the zippers used are all heavy duty YKK. The push buttons attached on the Tennier bags has a better snap than the ones on the MFH bags. That may become a problem when using the bivy bag but I will check that out in the review part 2 while field testing the stuff.
The compression sacks are made of the same black polyeten material but the biggest difference is that Tennier used original YKK strap locks and MFH did not.

Then on to the feeling when crawling into these bags.
The black cold weather bag by MFH looks bigger than the Tennier made one.
I am a 6,1 (187 cm) tall guy and when I lay out in this bag there is a lack of space for my feet. Changing to the Tennier bag there is no problem at all. This sack is made much more spacious down by the feet and I must say that I feel much better off in this one.
The green patrol bag by MFH looks just the same but in this case the chinese made
bag is the winner for me. It has lots more space and a better construction over all
and I don´t feel the urge of panic that I do in the Tennier bag.

So my indoor review of these bags ends up with a combination of the Tennier´s black cold weather bag and the MFH's green patrol bag. In my upcoming outdoor tests I will sleep in the both systems and also try my cross over combination.
It´s snowing tonight in Swedish Lapland and a temp going down below -15C.
The arctic darkness is slowly going away and at 4.30 pm there´s a dark blue twilight.

Hope this first look at my two new US GI MSS is of some interest for ZS.
Price for the MFH bags incl original Bivy bag: 269 USD
Price for the Tennier bags incl original Bivy bag: 209 USD

/ Olle











 
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