It was not as bad as I was expecting,it was ok actually.I cannot stand the BBC these days you see!
Tribal Wives
- Thread starter firecrest
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Im glad someone else recognised him. He looked older in ray's program; maybe the wives are making him young again.
Stu
I watched part of one and they was talking about when they get there teeth knocked out when they are children, Shouldnt be allowed in this day and age
Yeah but then theres the argument that its 'a tribal thing'. You can't change it.
Seems it is common practice among some ethnic groups here in Britain, one of my Somalian care assistants told me I was horrified
I think the problem is some people imagine it is like male circumcision (which I am also opposed to unless it is for medical reasons) But it isnt. it isnt skin thats cut away but the actual clitoris, some of the labia and in many cases, is also stitched up, so that when she marries it is provable she is a virgin. The stitching is done with no anesthetic and causes the girl to urinate a very slow drip.
some people like to say to these things "oh its cultural" but I dont think culture should be used to justify everything.
some people like to say to these things "oh its cultural" but I dont think culture should be used to justify everything.
xylaria
Bushcrafter (boy, I've got a lot to say!)
Female genital mutilation is illegal in britain in any circumstances, and it is starting to die out in places where it is practiced, i was quite surprised the tribe being covered still practiced it. There is great variation in what is done, from scarring to hood to complete mutilation. I watched the program with my daughter, it did lead to very frank conversation on cultural practices.
Globally there is a lot more men that are circumcised, and there is great cultural variation in what deemed medically nessercery between doctors.
Globally there is a lot more men that are circumcised, and there is great cultural variation in what deemed medically nessercery between doctors.
I say if Nature have evolved things that way then unless there is a real need leave them bits alone - or rather whole
Do you shave your head/face/legs? you evolved to have hair on your head/face/legs. there is no real need to shave, is there?I say if Nature have evolved things that way then unless there is a real need leave them bits alone - or rather whole
No actually I don't and I let nature have her way with my head I also don't think that having a shave can be compared with a young girl having there labia and clitoris removed with a knife without anaesthetic of pain relief - can it?
Per your quote, both are not how nature intended 'us' to be.
as for female circumcision, less than 10% of the operations are as extreme as the type mentioned by you. American women are paying thousands of dollars for what is to all intent and purpose a female circumcision when they have a clitorodotomy to improve their sex life.
I do not agree with the practice of enforced circumcision of either sex. Do not forget in the USA it is automatically done to baby boys. (Sometimes against the will of the parents,) all in the name of making the boy fit in with his peers.
However, Im not going to leap on the bandwagon of raging abhorrence, without trying to fully understand the nature of the action.
I find it `ragingly abhorrent` that its done to boys in america. Like Matt said, these things evolved over millions of years, they are there for a reason. Also hair grows back, it doesnt compare to unconsented mutilation. A large percentage of americans are fundamentalist christian who dont believe in evolution, but even then their logic falls down. If you believe god made man, then why do we need to swiftly alter his work upon the birth of a baby?! What did he make a mistake with the foreskin or something?
No mention of the other tribal "mutilations" - huge ear and lip plugs, facial scarring, tattooing, teeth filing, neck rings (as in "giraffe" necked women), penile piercing, lip, nose and lip piercing, bodily scarring, juvenile circumsizing........
It must be a cultural thing.....
It must be a cultural thing.....
you see most of that Bristol on a Saturday Afternoon...No mention of the other tribal "mutilations" - huge ear and lip plugs, facial scarring, tattooing, teeth filing, neck rings (as in "giraffe" necked women), penile piercing, lip, nose and lip piercing, bodily scarring, juvenile circumsizing........
It must be a cultural thing.....
