The Rise and Fall of the Plastic Bag
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Just to point out the folly of trying to use Albert Einstein quotes as some sort of argument.
"The word god is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honourable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish. No interpretation no matter how subtle can (for me) change this." - Albert Einstein in a letter to the philosopher Eric Gutkind, 3rd January 1954
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If anyone is interested (now that the thread has now drifted to woo science) A fairly straight forward debunking of the electric universe can be found here. Of course not everyone will agree with it but if we were all rational and thought along the same lines Scientology and Homeopathy would not exist either.
http://neutrinodreaming.blogspot.co.uk/2011/09/electric-universe-theory-debunked.html
http://neutrinodreaming.blogspot.co.uk/2011/09/electric-universe-theory-debunked.html
Nor would anything else exist.
"Rational" is a linguistic spook that implies some sort of objectivity being produced by a highly subjective machine (the human brain).
We are subjective that is why we have to think critically about things and employ verifiable scientific methods to understand the world around us.
Which implies the the method can remove the subjectivity. But who is using the method? And where does the input come from?
As pointed in the Einstein quote the input into the method came from imagination which is pure subjectivity.
No method or number of people will remove the subjectivity variable from the equation.
As pointed in the Einstein quote the input into the method came from imagination which is pure subjectivity.
No method or number of people will remove the subjectivity variable from the equation.
A straight forward debunking, your kidding right? That is a laughable 'debunking'. I've seen better debunking of the spherical Earth by Flat Earthers! The comments section is far more informative than the actual article.
As I have said "We shall have to wait and see, flannels at the ready!"
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He says the Bible is primitive and yet honourable. The founding Fathers of the United States of America recognised and quoted the wisdom contained within the Bible and yet they also recognised its short comings and that it contained fables for children. But of course those that treat Mainstream Science as their religion do not have a monopoly on Wisdom and they still believe in Creation Myths such as the Big Bang. "In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded." Terry Pratchett.
You seem to imply that Einstein did not believe in a God from your quote, that is patently false. There was no folly in quoting him, it demonstrated exactly that many Scientists believe in the Supernatural. To imply that someone can't be a good Scientist because they do so is utterly ridiculous, in fact as Einstein said, lame!
I think we have done this to death. Please keep your flannel to hand just in case you are wrong and don't forget to take those reusable bags with you when going shopping.
Sums it all up
Oh! Oh! That's the one where they tap on to an Alien computer where the locals are having a debate Picard finds really boring but a cloaked Romulan ship has uploaded a virus to the Enterprise computer so they can't unsubscribe. One of my favourites!
Really? I've studied the Founding Fathers a good bit and I've never seen anything quoting them saying anything about "fables for children."
This is my understanding of Einstein as well. And of Galileo, and Newton also.
Star Trek TOS and TNG are the best of the franchise although TOS just has the lead for me and both series are a couple of mouse clicks away
Both box sets are worth buying (if you've not got them already).Are you a fan of this fantastic series
[video=youtube;NzlG28B-R8Y]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzlG28B-R8Y[/video]
We have that here, both for bottles and cans, and it works great.We used to do it here - charging a deposit on a glass bottle and refunding it when the bottle was returned. Can't see why it wouldn't work still
We also have the bag tax + we can choose between biodegradable and non-biodegradable bags. The only downside on that is that the idiots have put a higher tax on the biodegradable bags, so most people don't choose them.
Star Trek TOS and TNG are the best of the franchise although TOS just has the lead for me and both series are a couple of mouse clicks away
Are you a fan of this fantastic series
[video=youtube;NzlG28B-R8Y]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzlG28B-R8Y[/video]
I don't remember much of TOS TBH, always liked TNG and later got addicted to Voyager though never finished it out.
I was always disappointed on TNG they never had James Brown guest as an admiral. An ensign would come up to him and say "Your report is finished Admiral" to which James Brown would reply "Take it to the Bridge".
Then there was the Voyager episode they never made where the TV signals from the 90's have reached that area of space and an energy overload causes the transporters to malfunction beaming the characters from Father Ted onto the ship.
I really haven't spent enough time in the woods, with girls or in the woods with girls have I?
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STV was good but I never got into B5 or DS9 for that matter; I must persevere with them in the future. There are a lot of original TZ episodes on YT which are well worth you watching.
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