You live in South Wales, have you not noticed less bags in the the countryside/streams/rivers? I certainly have. What more 'thorough manner' would you suggest?
The Rise and Fall of the Plastic Bag
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You live in South Wales, have you not noticed less bags in the the countryside/streams/rivers? I certainly have. What more 'thorough manner' would you suggest?
Where I work in Monmouthshire no but it was pretty clean to start with and where I live in Blaenau Gwent no as well but the type of bag used to litter has varied if nothing else. I don't think litter is a big part of the problem though if I'm honest.
By thorough I mean the analysis of the effect of the new law in Wales could be have been measured not just as a number based on disposable bags that were not bought compared to the number bought before the law was introduced but should have taken into account other factors such as increased sales in bags of other types (ie bin bags etc). Why introduce it in Wales as an experiment if they're not going to properly examine the results?
That is funny, the opponents of Copernicus and Galileo said the same!!! Start shopping for an egg removal flannel, you are going to get fried on this one!
Just out of interest, what degree in Science do you hold? Cosmology is in crisis mate and the EUM is the answer. The Sun is electric and Einstein was wrong.
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That is funny, the opponents of Copernicus and Galileo said the same!!! Start shopping for an egg removal flannel, you are going to get fried on this one!
Cosmology is in crisis mate and the EUM is the answer. The Sun is electric and Einstein was wrong.
I actually believe in using common sense and scientific method. As for degrees . . . I studied physics and computing.
As one of my lecturer's said "How do we know these theories are correct? We don't, but we can use them to help use design stuff that works, which suggests they are a pretty good model of how the universe functions."
Since things like GPS rely on Einstein's theories, current-day computing relies on fairly advanced physics; I think the conventional theories are a pretty good model of how things function.
If you can repeat an experiment time after time and get the same results the theory/rationale is proven I thought?
As Rene Descartes said "cogito ergo sum" or in modern slang "I'm pink therefore I'm spam"
As Rene Descartes said "cogito ergo sum" or in modern slang "I'm pink therefore I'm spam"
The Thunderbolts Project is not pseudo-science it is Hoax science. It basically the next from lowest rung on the ladder. the order they go in is:-
1, Actual
2, Pseudo
3, Junk
4, Hoax
5, Fraudulent
not exactly
You observe - then theorize based on observations. Then you use your theory to predict something and devise and experiment to test your prediction. You carry out the experiment and publish the results. Other people then try the experiment to see if they can reproduce your results. If everyone gets similar results then you decide your theory might be a good one.
Pretty much what I said, but then I'm not in full blown pedant mode LOL... you really do need to chill out chap (or chapess?).
No need to have a sense of humour failure on my account and it is not settled Science that GPS proves Einstein's theories as demonstrated by Ron Hatch:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGZ1GU_HDwY&list=PL66vQZe6SoChhM2F20xKXzEpzIk5pDylB
I'm baffled by the idea that it is Hoax Science, I have been involved with the EUM for years and the idea that it is a hoax is completely and utterly laughable. As for Pseudo-Science, well I think Steve Crowthers has shown that Black Hole Theory falls into this category, it is just that nobody wants to see that the Emperor has no clothes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRsGPq77X0Q
We shall have to wait and see, flannels at the ready!
Truth passes through three phases:
First it is ridiculed.
Second it is fiercely and violently opposed.
Third, it becomes self-evident.
— Arthur Schopenhauer
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The next time my distant cousin drops by I'll ask him to clarify the Black Hole questions for you
When Ron Hatch uses his theories to design something as sophisticated as GPS or a modern computer CPU, then I'll listen to him. Until then, he's a daft quack as far as I'm concerned.
Saying something is a good model of how things function because you can build something that works is really quite tentative.
A more accurate way of saying it might be that because you can build stuff with it, the model interacts with reality well enough not to be utter nonsense.
Well he has been working on GPS for 50 years and developed the GPS Hatch Filter. I guess you can start listening to him now! http://www.gps.gov/governance/advisory/members/hatch/
LOL, yep, just because it works doesn't mean it works the way you think it works. Ptolemaic Epicycles worked for hundreds of years even though the theory was incorrect. The Gravity driven theory of mainstream Science relies on fantasy Dark Energy, Dark Matter and Black Holes, but we can't see them! Now that truly sounds like pseudoscience. The EUM keeps predicting correctly and explaining observations logically without resorting to improbable explanations and saying "well we weren't expecting that"!
Anyone using biblical quotes whilst trying to explain something scientific gets scepticism from me.
He seems to believe in invisible friends and the supernatural, at which point science goes out the window.
He seems to believe in invisible friends and the supernatural, at which point science goes out the window.
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Seriously? You do realize that many of the most famous and revolutionary Scientists ever had a belief in the supernatural and unseen.
Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind.Albert Einstein, "Science, Philosophy and Religion: a Symposium", 1941
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