The Crime and Policing Bill 2025
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If you allow one in, others may follow and that becomes uncontrollable.
Am not sure if once allowed in can you ask they remain in the one room or can you easily revoke the access?
There is no need to touch the forelock to anyone regardless of how impressive their hat might be. No need to be disrespectful either for that matter.
Well the Bill continues to grind its way through the Committee stage:
https://bills.parliament.uk/bills/3938/stages/19748
Measures around sale and delivery of knives, reporting bulk / suspicious sales / penalties for executives of online platforms have been tabled:
https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/bills/cbill/59-01/0187/amend/crime_policing_rm_pbc_0425.pdf
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https://bills.parliament.uk/bills/3938/stages/19748
Measures around sale and delivery of knives, reporting bulk / suspicious sales / penalties for executives of online platforms have been tabled:
https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/bills/cbill/59-01/0187/amend/crime_policing_rm_pbc_0425.pdf
Starts at the bottom of Page 14
Got to the bottom of the Reddit thread and they had eventually managed to reclaim the knives, but not before a significant amount of correspondence.
"premises" also includes the woods where you are wild camping and someone makes a busybody or malicious call to the police - number of van campers in legal car parks have had that happen to them - e.g. locals who want to dissuade them.
A nervous young pc might decide you are vicously chopping up battens with too much vigour=Stress=dangerous person.
On the shotgun access issue - I'd understood they do not have the right to access, that you can refuse, something one of the shooting associations has given strong legal advice on ?
A nervous young pc might decide you are vicously chopping up battens with too much vigour=Stress=dangerous person.
On the shotgun access issue - I'd understood they do not have the right to access, that you can refuse, something one of the shooting associations has given strong legal advice on ?
The latest version here:
https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/bills/cbill/59-01/0235/240235.pdf
Part 2, chapters 1 & 2, clauses 10-34
Clause 34 is interesting, it creates a duty for sellers to report anyone who remotely buys 6 or more knives in a single sale (or spread over 2 or more sales in a 30 day period). It will be an offence not to comply.
Some of the other measures are at:
17 Unlawful weapons content
21 Failure to comply with content removal notice or decision notice: civil penalties
25 Possession of weapon with intent to use unlawful violence etc
26 Maximum penalty for offences relating to offensive weapons
27 Power to seize bladed articles etc
29 Remote sales of knives etc
30 Delivery of knives etc
34 Duty to report remote sales of knives etc in bulk: England and Wales
https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/bills/cbill/59-01/0235/240235.pdf
Part 2, chapters 1 & 2, clauses 10-34
Clause 34 is interesting, it creates a duty for sellers to report anyone who remotely buys 6 or more knives in a single sale (or spread over 2 or more sales in a 30 day period). It will be an offence not to comply.
Some of the other measures are at:
17 Unlawful weapons content
21 Failure to comply with content removal notice or decision notice: civil penalties
25 Possession of weapon with intent to use unlawful violence etc
26 Maximum penalty for offences relating to offensive weapons
27 Power to seize bladed articles etc
29 Remote sales of knives etc
30 Delivery of knives etc
34 Duty to report remote sales of knives etc in bulk: England and Wales
Dont actually need a warrant in the UK - this seems like some kind of urban myth propogated from US TV shows ... had this from a family lawyer friend. There are of course grounds that require an officer of the law to enter a house, and this includes suspicion of ANY violent crime, suspicion of damage to property etc
Although with my rudimentary understanding of this, if you know you haven’t done those things, you still may not want to let them in without a warrant. Make them force entry, so that when it’s proven they unlawfully entered your property any confiscations or claims beyond that point would get thrown out. If you let them in, they are there lawfully even if their suspicion is incorrect.
Not a lawyer.
Realistically though I don’t think police will be interested in many of us or our camping/carving tools, are unlikely to want to come into our houses for no reason, and this is all a hypothetical.
Edited to add: I have police in my house fairly regularly because I’m friends with a few, and my cutlery drawer remains unplundered.
That is, of course, if the legal/justice systems were being upheld as intended.... and these systems are being changed one law at a time to our disadvantage, whether that is in the UK, Germany, Sweden or anywhere else in the West. two tier justice is a reality in many places. I still have to see any laws being reversed.
Some systems move slower, others a lot faster. History and current day examples abound.
But soon that will a thing of the past. Then it will be an imported system that will dictate. Unless a CDBC beats them to it.
Some systems move slower, others a lot faster. History and current day examples abound.
But soon that will a thing of the past. Then it will be an imported system that will dictate. Unless a CDBC beats them to it.
