The Crime and Policing Bill 2025

[slaine_23]

Where exactly would an electric hedge trimmer fit within the new legislation?

Depends if it’s battery powered.
As for a petrol chainsaw?

 

[slaine_23]

From experience, don't ever let the police in your house without a warrant, not even when they are purporting to be doing you a service.

If you allow one in, others may follow and that becomes uncontrollable.
Am not sure if once allowed in can you ask they remain in the one room or can you easily revoke the access?
There is no need to touch the forelock to anyone regardless of how impressive their hat might be. No need to be disrespectful either for that matter.

 

[ijohnson]

 

[Kiri]

2nd Reading:

https://hansard.parliament.uk/Commons/2025-03-10/debates/FBC378D8-E3CC-4ABF-A1D2-DD6A8B2CD7F6/CrimeAndPolicingBill

 

[Kiri]

Well the Bill continues to grind its way through the Committee stage:

https://bills.parliament.uk/bills/3938/stages/19748



Measures around sale and delivery of knives, reporting bulk / suspicious sales / penalties for executives of online platforms have been tabled:

https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/bills/cbill/59-01/0187/amend/crime_policing_rm_pbc_0425.pdf


Starts at the bottom of Page 14

 

[Kiri]

Also new measures around crossbows for those who might be interested.

 

[Foogs]

This is an interesting recent post I stumbled upon on Reddit, regarding someone who was arrested (and promptly cleared, and the correct suspect arrested) for an assault in some woodland. Their house was searched and they had their legally owned knives confiscated and Nottinghamshire Police told them they refuse to return them as they have a 'zero tolerance approach' to knives. Which is of course unlawful.

https://www.reddit.com/r/LegalAdviceUK/comments/1fuv0ng/nottinghamshire_knife_seizure

I suppose here it's important that whilst plenty of us will say "Well I have never been in trouble with the police, they have never been to my house", that isn't the case for everyone even when said people have done nothing wrong.

Got to the bottom of the Reddit thread and they had eventually managed to reclaim the knives, but not before a significant amount of correspondence.

 

[Falstaff]

"premises" also includes the woods where you are wild camping and someone makes a busybody or malicious call to the police - number of van campers in legal car parks have had that happen to them - e.g. locals who want to dissuade them.
A nervous young pc might decide you are vicously chopping up battens with too much vigour=Stress=dangerous person.
On the shotgun access issue - I'd understood they do not have the right to access, that you can refuse, something one of the shooting associations has given strong legal advice on ?

 

[oldtimer]

I hope the police don't visit while I'm preparing dinner.

 

[Kiri]

The latest version here:

https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/bills/cbill/59-01/0235/240235.pdf

Part 2, chapters 1 & 2, clauses 10-34


Clause 34 is interesting, it creates a duty for sellers to report anyone who remotely buys 6 or more knives in a single sale (or spread over 2 or more sales in a 30 day period). It will be an offence not to comply.


Some of the other measures are at:

17 Unlawful weapons content

21 Failure to comply with content removal notice or decision notice: civil penalties

25 Possession of weapon with intent to use unlawful violence etc

26 Maximum penalty for offences relating to offensive weapons

27 Power to seize bladed articles etc

29 Remote sales of knives etc

30 Delivery of knives etc

34 Duty to report remote sales of knives etc in bulk: England and Wales

 

[Chris]

The latest version here:

https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/bills/cbill/59-01/0235/240235.pdf

Part 2, chapters 1 & 2, clauses 10-34


Clause 34 is interesting, it creates a duty for sellers to report anyone who remotely buys 6 or more knives in a single sale (or spread over 2 or more sales in a 30 day period). It will be an offence not to comply.


Some of the other measures are at:

17 Unlawful weapons content

21 Failure to comply with content removal notice or decision notice: civil penalties

25 Possession of weapon with intent to use unlawful violence etc

26 Maximum penalty for offences relating to offensive weapons

27 Power to seize bladed articles etc

29 Remote sales of knives etc

30 Delivery of knives etc

34 Duty to report remote sales of knives etc in bulk: England and Wales

So anyone who buys a cutlery set is off to the gulag?

 

[PaulSanderson]

From experience, don't ever let the police in your house without a warrant, not even when they are purporting to be doing you a service.

Dont actually need a warrant in the UK - this seems like some kind of urban myth propogated from US TV shows ... had this from a family lawyer friend. There are of course grounds that require an officer of the law to enter a house, and this includes suspicion of ANY violent crime, suspicion of damage to property etc