right on the mark pibbleb. if it works it works. most expensive socks are a total con. the only ones which have been worth their price tag are the 1000 mile socks, when used as a liner. sometimes these discussions get a touch serious but most importantly they're open to anything, so no worries there. ahh yes, the standing on broken toy test, i know this well, it's like testing off road tyres. by the way your signature is very funny
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