SIGG Tourist & SVEA 123R

[rik_uk3]

Too many questions all at once lol, re priming the 123, one option is to wrap a bit of fibre glass cloth around the stem, at a 'guestimate' I get double the meths on the stove (sorry about the picture quality but you get the idea)

This works on my 8's as well. Don't worry about spilling a bit of fuel, it won't blow the tank, just make sure you are on an inflammable surface. To be honest with an 8 I always spill a bit into the stove base and find this works as well are using a mini/midi pump in cold weather.

"Rik, do you know if the 123 will fit inside the army box/stand designed to use the 00 burner" Don't know Martyn, give it a go and let us know how you get on

Usual disclaimer Do any modifications at your own risk.

Martyn Re: Nova flame spread; its not uncommon to see a verticle flame (often yellow tipped) on the stove but the flame spreads very well on a flat bottomed pan (and goes blue), the heat exchanger in your picture may 'hug' the flames more?

 

[bilmo-p5]

"...the army box/stand designed to use the 00 burner"

What's that?

 

[steve a]

Re priming a 123 with the brass windshield on, I just use a large plastic eyedropper pushed in through the valve key hole, it fills the depression fully. This coupled with a small nag bottle of meths or Coleman fuel makes lighting a lot easier than faffing with the windshield.

 

[bilmo-p5]

Somewhere along the line between last use and next lighting you are likely to need to remove the w/s to relieve the tank.

 

[Martyn]

"...the army box/stand designed to use the 00 burner"

What's that?

Sorry, I meant the no.7 stove....

http://www.spiritburner.com/fusion/showtopic.php?tid/16025/post/new/#NEW

 

[rik_uk3]

No, the 123 is too wide, 80 fit and I've put a 71 in a No7 case. Look out for a 71 they go cheap on eBay

 

[johnboy]

Do you mean the box designed for the army No 7 stove???

 

[johnboy]

Ooops too slow in posting!

As Bryans post says the number 7 is a combination of 123 burner and 71 / 80 tank.

71 /80's are good stoves as good as the 123... But cost a bit less as folk generally don't know what they are....

 

[bilmo-p5]

No, the 123 is too wide, 80 fit and I've put a 71 in a No7 case. Look out for a 71 they go cheap on eBay

A 70 will fit nicely in a No.7 case too...

 

[rik_uk3]

To be honest my 71's/80's are under used these days as I only really camp when there are two or more of us. I've a nice old Radius 121 which seems to have taken on the role of brew stove; fab little cooker, close the valve and prime and it lights without pumping, its a real cracker.

Off topic but B&Ms and Wilkco have a camping sale on, fold up cups in W's are 60p, 'credit card' size survival tool 60p and in B&M's 2l camp kettles are down to £2.49, tent pegs (10) further reduced to 39p...get them while you can.

 

[Teepee]

No, the 123 is too wide, 80 fit and I've put a 71 in a No7 case. Look out for a 71 they go cheap on eBay

I've just started trying to renovate an old 71 with a broken vapourising tube and valve, thats some timely info

 

[johnboy]

I've just started trying to renovate an old 71 with a broken vapourising tube and valve, thats some timely info

A standard 71 / 80 is a wee bit too tall for the No 7 case IIRC. If your 71 has a busted valve keep an eye out for a 123R valve assembly they pop up on US ebay reasonably often. Then you can make a replica of an army No7 which will fit in the case...

 

[johnboy]

"...the army box/stand designed to use the 00 burner"

What's that?

One of these....

http://www.spiritburner.com/fusion/showtopic.php?tid/20025/post/new/

Looks like they used the tin for the 111 to fit the 00 in...

 

[Teepee]

A standard 71 / 80 is a wee bit too tall for the No 7 case IIRC. If your 71 has a busted valve keep an eye out for a 123R valve assembly they pop up on US ebay reasonably often. Then you can make a replica of an army No7 which will fit in the case...

Thanks Johnboy. Do you know if I would I then need a new presure relief filler cap too? I have a solid cap.

 

[bilmo-p5]

Ah, I see. I probably saw it when it was posted but I wouldn't have given it a 2nd look as I prefer 210s. Thank you for pointing it out.

 

[johnboy]

Does the 71 tank have the soldered pin in it? For solid cap 71's that is the pressure relief.

If you have a solid cap and tank without the pin then:

A. You have a mismatched tank cap combo.
B. You'll need to think about some form of pressure relief.

If the pressure relief actually goes off you still get a big 'kaboom' once the base of the tank has distorted...

 

[johnboy]

Ah, I see. I probably saw it when it was posted but I wouldn't have given it a 2nd look as I prefer 210s. Thank you for pointing it out.

I really like 00's ( well any 1 pint stove actually) I have one that is really scruffy but runs like a RR Avon on afterburner... Puts my XGK to shame...

 

[Teepee]

Does the 71 tank have the soldered pin in it? For solid cap 71's that is the pressure relief.

If you have a solid cap and tank without the pin then:

A. You have a mismatched tank cap combo.
B. You'll need to think about some form of pressure relief.

If the pressure relief actually goes off you still get a big 'kaboom' once the base of the tank has distorted...

It has the pin
The big kaboom sounds like a trouser filling moment. The pin is suspect though, so maybe a pressure cap would be a good idea. The thought of being covered in lit petrol isn't doing it for me, however small the risk!

 

[johnboy]

The pin is suspect though, so maybe a pressure cap would be a good idea.

Why is the pin suspect??

 

[Teepee]

It leaked petrol so I soldered it.