Rich Hall and American Indians

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Swallow

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Always open to those criticising this thread to not read it and go back to telling each other about their new knives.

That does seem the obvious answer doesn't it?

So a few people can take over the thread with a debate they could easily take away to PM or another thread and it's up to everyone to else pretend they aren't doing that or abandon a thread they were enjoying?

That strikes me as a far from obvious solution.
 

Toddy

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Not really Mary, but I'll be the whipping boy as per usual.

Never :) you're very able to stand up for yourself when necessary.

Honestly my poor wee in box got a right royal tanking over this thread.
But, as I said, the sheer range and the known people who were involved in the disussion (and I haven't read it for a couple of days, so that's a bit subjective) let it ramble on.

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Wander

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Always open to those criticising this thread to not read it and go back to telling each other about their new knives.
Yeah. But equally, surely, it is also the duty of those who want to hijack and thread with their own hobby horse NOT to read the thread and start a new one or, you know, just keep it to yourself? Here's a shocking thought for you - just because you can do something doesn't mean you should do it. What a pity you don't take you own advice and stopped reading the thread when you didn't like it, eh?

anything more is just a back and forth.
Ming mong ping pong, is the technical term for it.

Not really Mary, but I'll be the whipping boy as per usual.
Too funny!
Poor innocent you!
Come off it. When I read your original post the first thought that came to my mind was, 'classic bit of internet troll baiting!'
And you knew it.
Don't get me wrong, I don't mind that. It's all part of the game of internet discussion forums. But don't come over all innocent and naive.
 

rik_uk3

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Yeah. But equally, surely, it is also the duty of those who want to hijack and thread with their own hobby horse NOT to read the thread and start a new one or, you know, just keep it to yourself? Here's a shocking thought for you - just because you can do something doesn't mean you should do it. What a pity you don't take you own advice and stopped reading the thread when you didn't like it, eh?


Ming mong ping pong, is the technical term for it.


Too funny!
Poor innocent you!
Come off it. When I read your original post the first thought that came to my mind was, 'classic bit of internet troll baiting!'
And you knew it.

Don't get me wrong, I don't mind that. It's all part of the game of internet discussion forums. But don't come over all innocent and naive.

No, I did not, it was meant as a bit of banter, something sadly missed by our American members and some of the UK members who have suffered recent(ish) UK education where the world of PC has embedded itself in their dark places.

I like rich Hall, I like his humour and thats why I put the post up.

After a day or so I spotted the usual Boatman/Santaman/Rob from Alaska (?) piping in with the usual inane scheisse...its only a thread on a mediocre forum, don't take it, or make it personal

I'm off in a couple of days for some sunshine so fill your boots.
 
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Leshy

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Post alteration.
Previous post inflammatory and unnecessary.
My apologies

...


I'll share some amazing photos again instead ...

https://www.loc.gov/pictures/search/?fa=displayed:anywhere&sp=1&co=ecur&st=grid










Description of these on the link provided above , along with hundreds more interesting photos.

Peace
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boatman

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Permanently on holiday thank you, great trip to a Cornish beach with the dog. Sun is shining and we might repeat today or maybe a pasty at another coastal site of rare beauty. This week will be attending medieval combat club, new sword expected today, and on Thursday will be fencing with modern foils. Possibly a little archery at the weekend or out on the Helford with the coracle. Must be awful to be all grumpy and have to go to work and worry about money.
 

Nomad64

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Permanently on holiday thank you, great trip to a Cornish beach with the dog. Sun is shining and we might repeat today or maybe a pasty at another coastal site of rare beauty. This week will be attending medieval combat club, new sword expected today, and on Thursday will be fencing with modern foils. Possibly a little archery at the weekend or out on the Helford with the coracle. Must be awful to be all grumpy and have to go to work and worry about money.

Proper job! Presumably all done while wearing a pearly king outfit and loudly singing Knees up Mother Brown to make sure that any passing maids or 'ansomes don't forget their "English" heritage! :p
 

boatman

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Hardly, not entitled to a Pearly King outfit, are you that ignorant that you do not know it is hereditary?
 

Wayne

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I am tempted to close this thread and impose a few temporary bans for clear infringement of the forum rules.

The primary one being be nice to one another, treat people with the same level of courtesy that you would expect from any visitor to your living room.

Passionate discussion is all well and good but the childish infantile name calling in this thread falls well short of the high standards that you are all capable of.

I have not banned anyone yet as a moderator so please don't be the first.

I am not blaming any one individual for the deterioration of this thread so take a look at your posts above and ask yourselves Am I proud of what I have written.

Any further trolling, baiting or name calling will result in an immediate temporary ban.

Membership of the forum is a privilege so please remember that.
 

boatman

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Ancient or not my Dad recalled seeing two wouldbe Pearlies slugging out for the right to the buttons.
 

Toddy

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I was working at some event or other, and we had a stash of natural materials there…and the things made from them. Shells with circles cut out for buttons, etc.,…..and a fellow sidled up and asked me, "You don't have any buttons, do you love ?", and proceeded to scran all the neat shiny white ones :rolleyes:
If it's not fishermen after the coloured fibres for flies, it's pearlies after the buttons !

M
 

Leshy

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The casinos themselves have very little environmental impact. However they are the first step to further commercial development. That all means more people, more infrastructure, more roads, more buildings, more sewage, more golf courses (sucking up that precious water) etc. I've watched along the Gulf Coast in 3 states. And yes, profit first is the motive in both cases. Along the Gulf Coast casinos were built, are owned, and siphon money to outside owners. On the reservations they're all built and owned tribally and the vast majority of the profits remains with them as it should. But it's a profit first motive none-the-less.

The primary objection I have against the pipeline is indeed that it's across Indian lands. But as far as poisoning the water, the rails are already transporting that oil through much more heavily populated areas. Please show me just which pipeline is going to poison our water:


Several of these are well over 100 years old and now they want to block replacing them with newer, safer ones?
....And it's happened !

The inevitable and what the people at standing rock had feared the most , has just happened...

http://www.sciencealert.com/that-thing-the-standing-rock-protesters-were-afraid-of-just-happened

It's a repeat of happened at Yellowstone river a couple of years ago.


Sad doesn't even cut it , anger and disgust gets closer to doing that ....
 

santaman2000

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....And it's happened !

The inevitable and what the people at standing rock had feared the most , has just happened...

http://www.sciencealert.com/that-thing-the-standing-rock-protesters-were-afraid-of-just-happened

It's a repeat of happened at Yellowstone river a couple of years ago.


Sad doesn't even cut it , anger and disgust gets closer to doing that ....

Old hat. Pipelines leak every week (although I seriously doubt the owners didn't realize they were missing 176,000 gallons) That's part of my reason for supporting new pipelines (they have less danger of leaks or spills than the ones on that map that are on average 60 to 70 years old; some of them over a century)
 
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Robson Valley

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leshy: I don't think you want to see a map of pipeline leaks!
Or a map of fracking leaks but I suppose your guys can make your own maps right?
Replacement is the best possible option over here, as santaman advocates.

It ought to work very well except for some new ones planned to run through very active seismic areas like my British Columbia.
I can't recall for certain but I don't think that there has been more than 300 earthquakes on the BC coast in February.
 

Leshy

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Thanks for that Santaman and RV .

It's a real shame, but I think you maybe right about updating the pipeline.
It does sound like the old ones are just a liability.

Hopefully it will stop from things like this from happening again.

PS -

RV , please do . A map of the fracking leaks in the US , from the last 10 years or even the last 12 months would be great .

I'm working on a research project and that information would be very useful.

Feel free to pm a link or maps and any information regarding the fracking.

And specifically the fracking leaks and the impact caused by those..

Thank you very much

Kind regards

D.
 

Toddy

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Am I the only one utterly appalled at the casual mentions of horrendous numbers of oil leaks ? Toxic spills right through a continent ?

Someone (s) making a lot of money from the oil, they ought to be replacing and repairing pipelines and equipment as an ongoing process, and paying properly to do it too. I hope they are heavily fined, as they are for polluting watercourses here, and pay for total reparation of the polluted land and waters.
Tough if it eats into the profits.

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