How about a Delia/Mears crossover about backcountry cooking?
He does seem to enjoy his cooking...
Ray still just ahead in the UK, but Bear more popular worldwide
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How about a Delia/Mears crossover about backcountry cooking?
He does seem to enjoy his cooking...
It's not just bushcraft as something to be presented, it's those very skills and the appreciation of the natural world, and mankind's place within it, that appeals.
I think Ray is simply continuing his journey
He's constantly learning and he writes and talks about the places he has been, the stories of the people who were there before him, and their journeys too. cheers,
Toddy
How about a Delia/Mears crossover about backcountry cooking?
He does seem to enjoy his cooking...
I still think he should do a show with Hugh Fearnley-Whittingstall..
I'd love to see Ray do an entire series living off the land with minimal equipment. Something like his Journeyman course. But I suspect we've seen the last of his skill based series unfortunately.
Ah well. He's doing exactly what he wants, which is as much as anyone could ask for.
Ah well. He's doing exactly what he wants, which is as much as anyone could ask for.
I don't see how there's any relevance in what I get up to and the popularity between Bear and Ray.
That's like me saying that I prefer to play snooker but Liverpool FC is better than Man Utd.
That's like me saying that I prefer to play snooker but Liverpool FC is better than Man Utd.
They say there are three great conflict themes to literature: man against man; man against himself; and man against nature.
It seems to me that Bear taps into two of the three, man against nature, wherein nature is an obstacle to be overcome. and man against himself. Bear always pits himself against nature in every episode.
Ray, however, always seems to live in harmony with nature. And there you have it; one program is filled with conflict -- the stuff of literature (and television) and the other is not.
This is not to say that Bear is "better" than Ray. It is to say, however, that Bear will be more entertaining to more people. Frankly, I vastly prefer Ray over Bear, but I'm not making my judgments on "entertainment" value, but instead, on educational value. i.e. what can Ray teach me today? Plus, Ray's calm demeanor is relaxing while, Bear's frenetic running about wears me out.
Well, that's my opinion, and that, and $4.00 will get you a cup of coffee at Starbucks.
It seems to me that Bear taps into two of the three, man against nature, wherein nature is an obstacle to be overcome. and man against himself. Bear always pits himself against nature in every episode.
Ray, however, always seems to live in harmony with nature. And there you have it; one program is filled with conflict -- the stuff of literature (and television) and the other is not.
This is not to say that Bear is "better" than Ray. It is to say, however, that Bear will be more entertaining to more people. Frankly, I vastly prefer Ray over Bear, but I'm not making my judgments on "entertainment" value, but instead, on educational value. i.e. what can Ray teach me today? Plus, Ray's calm demeanor is relaxing while, Bear's frenetic running about wears me out.
Well, that's my opinion, and that, and $4.00 will get you a cup of coffee at Starbucks.
Very true and well put.
Thats one thing I really like about Ray and the limited Lars stuff I've seen. They love what they are doing, not just fighting and kiling everything in sight (although Lars does seem to do alot of fishing).
Do we have figures for Female votes cast for both??
Oh, and as for JH's Out of Town I have what is touted as the boxed set but if I'm honest too many of the episodes are like watching paint dry although their significance as a social document is undeniable if poorly acknowledged. One that stands out in this regard is his attendance at the Appleby Fair gathering, circa 1970, and his narrative of the gypsies from dawn through to dusk. Talk about no holds barred on the anthropological front!
Cheers
Oh, and as for JH's Out of Town I have what is touted as the boxed set but if I'm honest too many of the episodes are like watching paint dry although their significance as a social document is undeniable if poorly acknowledged. One that stands out in this regard is his attendance at the Appleby Fair gathering, circa 1970, and his narrative of the gypsies from dawn through to dusk. Talk about no holds barred on the anthropological front!
Cheers
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"...I rarely watch tv, maybe four or five hours a year. At the first Scottish Meet I asked who this Ray Mears fellow was
That feels like a lifetime ago.
It does doesn't it ?
We're having another one in early March..........long way for you to travel for now though
I did buy Ray's books though
went to one of his lectures in Glasgow, and I've even watched a couple of the DVD's atb,
M
Ray would be a good choice for World of Survival and, dare I say, Mr Attenborough's crown in time. As for a replacement, what about Andrew Price of Dryad Bushcraft? He did the A-Z of Bushcraft DVD and writes good pieces for Bushcraft and Survival Skills magazine. Never met the guy but I think he could succeed in a Bushcraft TV show.
I'm also like watching Bear too for what it's worth..
I never thought about it from a TV/entertainment value Point of View, but I see what you're saying.
Ray is more BBC 4 (PBS) while Bear is more Sky 1 (FOX).
Anyway I have nothing against either or anyone TBH, they're all doing their job and hopefully they're enjoying it and getting some satisfaction out of it.
The statistics will only ever be relevant if you can filter out those searching for Bear Grylls for comedy value.
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This is a close run thing!!!
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This is a close run thing!!!
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