Wow,thats worth bearing in mind.Thanks Keith. Wood instead of plastic sounds great and decent steel on a SAK :shock: They must be a bu***r to take apart and put back together tho'Keith_Beef said:
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bushwacker bob said:
Well, the scales are apparently not so difficult to get off a Victorinox, but once taken off cannot be put back on without glue. replacement scales are relatively inexpensive, and I think are a simple push fit. Can't say about Wengers. This is not something I've tried, but there are threads on here or on BB about it.
For example, here.
Multiblades can be difficult to reassemble. Of course, the more blade and springs there are, the more fiddly it is to get everything back together.
I did one for my father in law. It had been in his tool basket for about thirty years, and was well rusted.
The scales, some sort of resin impregnated card, had swelled, warped and buckled.
I took it apart. Easy. The scales more or less crumbled, then I drilled out the rivets, cleaned up all the parts (two blades, saw, can opener, corkscrew, awl, whatever, plus springs and scales), retempered and reground the main blade, and reassembled. I drilled out the main pivot to 2.8mm and used a piece of drill rod (probably M2 steel) for a pin.
Cow horn scales glued on with epoxy to finish it. And a nice little black leather pouch with a tagua nut toggle.
I need to get it back off him to check the scales, maybe rub them down again and take some photos.
Keith.
Notice how G2 gets a 4 and Gin-1 gets a 7? SAME FLIPPIN STEEL!!!
What a load of ill informed rubbish that BKCG steel chart is... :roll:
What a load of ill informed rubbish that BKCG steel chart is... :roll:
I've never come across it. There was one steel chart that didn't include some elements that my brother has to pay very careful attention to. (he's a production engineer)
Even supposedly good steels aren't worth squat if they have a poor heat treat.
As for D2 being better than 440C, I think that's a debatable issue. :sword:
440, 420, and AUS-6 are ok knife steels if properly heat treated but it also depends on the application. I think there are a lot better steels out there. You can get a Benchmade Griptilian in 440C for instance, and I would take AUS-8A over AUS-6 any day but that's not to say that AUS-6 won't do a lot of cutting for you and last you for years. A lot of CRKT knives are made of AUS-6.
I own a gerbor gator and it's not my favorite knife but over the years I've heard people rave again and again about their gerber gator so there's a lot of folks out there with real world experience with gerber gators that is pretty positive. Pricewise, it's probably a good deal. Also pricewise, I think CRKT has some of the best deals out there in folders. You might also consider the Dozier/Kabar line of folders. Very nice and lightweight with D2 steel.
My number one recommendation for an outdoor folder at a moderate price, though, is a Benchmade Griptilian or mini Griptilian. Well worth the xtra money over the cheaper folders, imo.
As for D2 being better than 440C, I think that's a debatable issue. :sword:
440, 420, and AUS-6 are ok knife steels if properly heat treated but it also depends on the application. I think there are a lot better steels out there. You can get a Benchmade Griptilian in 440C for instance, and I would take AUS-8A over AUS-6 any day but that's not to say that AUS-6 won't do a lot of cutting for you and last you for years. A lot of CRKT knives are made of AUS-6.
I own a gerbor gator and it's not my favorite knife but over the years I've heard people rave again and again about their gerber gator so there's a lot of folks out there with real world experience with gerber gators that is pretty positive. Pricewise, it's probably a good deal. Also pricewise, I think CRKT has some of the best deals out there in folders. You might also consider the Dozier/Kabar line of folders. Very nice and lightweight with D2 steel.
My number one recommendation for an outdoor folder at a moderate price, though, is a Benchmade Griptilian or mini Griptilian. Well worth the xtra money over the cheaper folders, imo.
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There are several Spyderco knives available in VG10 steel and at very reasonable prices. They are not a lot more than the Gerbers, but I would say a better investment.
Hoodoo said:
Couldn't agree more. Good pedigree, decent steel (440C), seems to be a good heat treat, nice grind, square/sharp spine, fantastic AXIS lock, lightweight, comfortable, no blade play, adjustable and stripable, ...and relatively cheap.
myakka said:
Ahhh, everyones favourite, S30v - made in volcano's and heat treated by Dragons. Yeah, it is a good steel, probably better than most. But it isn't magic.
Martyn said:Ahhh, everyones favourite, S30v - made in volcano's and heat treated by Dragons. Yeah, it is a good steel, probably better than most. But it isn't magic.
I dunno. I've fallen under it's spell. :shock: :shock:
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Hoodoo said:I dunno. I've fallen under it's spell. :shock: :shock:
Says the man with the Bechmade Activator in S30v with G10 scales
although I am surprised with the amount of cutlery that you have Hoodoo it would be difficult to fall under the spell of one particular steel .
I've got 5--possibly 6--knives in S30V now. I dunno. I'm starting to lose track... It's a spell I tell ya... :yikes:
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