Poop in the wilds

[Falstaff]

I see the UK advice has now changed to stick and flick (into the bushes), from bagging and packing out, as folk prefer to hang poop bags from trees. No mention of toilet paper so I think they were referring to doggies only. Unsurprisingly this is becoming a big problem in many popular parts, including the human waste aspect, ditto in the US/Canada. In the past I've always been burn and bury, and may be have to change.

PACT do fancy kits for both options

Anybody had any experience of poo bagging and packing out? do you pick it up with a bag over your hand like dog poo? Pretty certain I'm not going to be able to balance and blindly bomb aim into a bag!

 

[TeeDee]

Biscuits Brown - Problem solved.

( Or maybe just shifted to become a different problem )

 

[Pattree]

Forestry Commission taught me to plant trees with two blows of a spade.

First a deep blow across your stance.
Second a deep blow at 90 degrees forming a number seven (if you are British and right handed). I use a pointed little Roughneck spade in preference to a trenching tool.

Don’t withdraw the spade on the second blow but twist backwards lifting a wedge and cultivating the soil at the bottom of the cut. If it doesn’t stay folded back put your boot on it and just smack it one with your spade.

I have found this a very quick way of making a latrine. Once you release the hinged divot the site is nearly invisible. The usual debris camouflage handles the rest.
Small enough to be discrete, big enough not to miss.

A warden/gamekeeper won’t find it but his dog might.

If terrain doesn’t allow then it’s back against a tree or a rock and into a bag. Bag it and burn it. Bet you can’t guess what makes for an excellent incinerator.

 

[Broch]

Just to comment on the stick and flick advice - unfortunately, some dog owners feel it means they don't have to collect their waste at all. Hedges are full of muck in popular walking spots and they have taken to stick and flick into water courses - canoeing on canals is no longer any fun.

 

[TeeDee]

Just to comment on the stick and flick advice - unfortunately, some dog owners feel it means they don't have to collect their waste at all. Hedges are full of muck in popular walking spots and they have taken to stick and flick into water courses - canoeing on canals is no longer any fun.

Plus +1 - Don't understand why dog walkers think this way - there is a lovely country estate close to me that allows dog walkers to use its ground free of charge , and they do en masse - they have had phases of people not taking away their own dogs mess ( can't blame the Dog ) and having to threaten closing the estate for everyone.

Your dog - Your responsibility regardless of where it is and regardless if its on the lead or not.

 

[Chris]

Plus +1 - Don't understand why dog walkers think this way - there is a lovely country estate close to me that allows dog walkers to use its ground free of charge , and they do en masse - they have had phases of people not taking away their own dogs mess ( can't blame the Dog ) and having to threaten closing the estate for everyone.

Your dog - Your responsibility regardless of where it is and regardless if its on the lead or not.

I think the advice in the Forest of Dean is 'stick and flick'. It was very frustrating, as I'd bagged up a couple of Finn's but Forestry England decided they didn't need any bins in the car park for this very reason, so I had to transport the precious cargo elsewhere. Thankfully I have a well sealed, zippable bag built for the job.

Not really nice when dog walkers are not the only users of woodland. As it's so often open access land, people may well want to wander about the woods without standing in selfish pet owners' leavings. Although to be honest I am a dog owner often walking my dog, and I still don't want to be walking my dog surrounded by dog turds. Such disrespect towards our shared spaces.

 

[Broch]

Mmm... well, I think, as a dog owner (on sabbatical at the moment) we should take it home. Why should community resources be spent on collecting up our pet's waste? But, the majority of people just won't and, unlike you, if there are no convenient bins, they'll just chuck it. Exactly the same applies to litter.

Oh boy, we have definitely taken this in a direction not requested by the OP!

To the OP, are we talking about whilst out for the day or when in a static camp for a few days?

 

[Kepis]

Mmm... well, I think, as a dog owner (on sabbatical at the moment) we should take it home.

Can you come and tell that to one of my neighbours, they regularly send their kids up to the dog waste bin with a bag of baggies from their garden rather than put said baggies in their own bin.

 

[Falstaff]

Well what's sauce for the Goose is sauce for the Gander, and we can consider both issues almost as one.
I think the stick and flick is bad advice, and possibly driven by the cost of bin collection and disposal. I think the only proper answer is to pack out and take it home.
The reason for authorities asking for removal is to contain infection as well as avoiding the joy of a mucky shoe. With the sheer volume of walkers and lack of places, favourite areas quickly become literally overloaded. Similar situation arises with gypsy encampments.

Dogs (and children) off the leash like to get in the bushes, if there are any, and easily pick up dog infections. Apparently horses like the cereal in dog poo, another infection vector. (Cattle & Sheep too?)
We used to avoid taking our family dog to one local park/football pitches area because they always caught something.
I had in mind 1 night stands whilst hiking. Being in one place for a longer time needs more organisation, probably a proper small pit, or a mobile loo, they are quite good now but only suitable for car-camping.

I like the no7 spade hole for a no2, but when walking or camping the most I carry is a trowel not an entrenching tool. But digging a suitable hole in a hurry with a small trowel, sometimes serruptiously, is a challenge!

 

[Pattree]

Have shovel, will travel.

Post hole or poo hole, I find this much more useful than an entrenching tool.

Edited to add:
Planting bare root Douglas @ 2/8d a hundred, you work very much faster than a curry run!

 

[Silverclaws2]

When I had a dog, I trained it to back it's rear into a bush when it needed to go

 

[Chris]

When I had a dog, I trained it to back it's rear into a bush when it needed to go

Didn’t that make it difficult to pick the poo up in a bag?

 

[Toddy]

We used to be puppy walkers for the guide dogs for the blind.

Blind people can't see dogsh1t....so dogs are taught to defecate on a regular schedule, using a specific word.

The result is no fuss, no mess, and poop someplace that the owner can quietly deal with, and without bothering other people.

Too many dog owners are a mess, not the dogs.

Not all, but enough to make it an issue for anyone walking some places.

In my youth when we camped, we used the last fire to burn 'stuff'. From personal wipes to pads, etc., that included defecating on newspaper or leaves.
We called that a 'foul fire' and we all knew what that meant. Burn it well, pour over water and bury the ashes.

Different times.

 

[Wildgoose]

Biscuits Brown - Problem solved.

( Or maybe just shifted to become a different problem )

Yes, but it’s a Tuesday problem

 

[Falstaff]

I remember there used to be a popular lady dog trainer on TV who used to train her dogs from puppies to go on command "Number Two's" in a specific place in her garden.

 

[slowworm]

Our dog wasn't really trained to do it but would mainly go in the same area at home and rarely when she went out. The problem with dogs is many people take them out to poo everywhere with no intention to clear it up.

If she ever went on a walk we always cleared it up regardless of how remote it was. I can't see any reason for people to not bag it up and take it with them, surely that's lighter than taking a spade with you?

Or eat only meat for several days before going camping...

 

[Broch]

I remember there used to be a popular lady dog trainer on TV who used to train her dogs from puppies to go on command "Number Two's" in a specific place in her garden.

Barbara Woodhouse?

I once went to a demonstration by her. She claimed she could train any dog to walk to heal. After about quarter of an hour trying to get a random dog to heal from the audience she handed it back to the owner and said "that dog is over-sexed, take it to the vet!"

 

[Pattree]

I remember there used to be a popular lady dog trainer on TV who used to train her dogs from puppies to go on command "Number Two's" in a specific place in her garden.

That particular TV presenter also insisted on using a vocabulary and tone for dogs that you couldn’t pay me to use. With my feet held to the flame I would never utter the term “walkies!”

Toddy is absolutely right not to publicise the Guide dog command - it could be misused by other than the dog owner.

 

[Chris]

Toddy is absolutely right not to publicise the Guide dog command - it could be misused by other than the dog owner.

Honestly until you said this, I hadn’t even considered the omission deliberate. Although I am not sure that practically this is a rule, as it’s published on the Guide Dogs website.

 

[nigelp]

Anybody had any experience of poo bagging and packing out? do you pick it up with a bag over your hand like dog poo? Pretty certain I'm not going to be able to balance and blindly bomb aim into a bag!

Canoe camping. I would line a 10 or 15 L litre plastic fence paint pot with a 50 L pedal bin bag. Put in some newspaper and cat litter in the bottom. Go about your business bag it up. Bag it up again. Seal inside the paint pot.

Similar, if I was if I was “camping“and needed to pack the poo to another location to to then dispose of it. In that situation, I would use a slightly smaller bag and line it with kitchen roll or toilet paper. Depending how long you have to carry it for I would then double or treble bag it. Or find a suitable location to dig a latrine.