You did talk about tidal strength. Let me draw your attention to this bit of nonsense:-
"You will find that they are ready mainly when the moon is in the ascent. Its the gravitational pull drawing the energy/moisture up through the plant that forces them to ripen. The energy is directed up and outwards which causes growth. In the 2 weeks the moon is in the descent, the top growth slows down and root growth increases. Simple facts on how the moon affects water on the planet."
That is what you said. I'm not even going into what "energy" you might be talking about (the mind boggles). You are here talking about tidal strength. You do recognise that as being what you wrote I take it?
Let's try again. How does the moon affect the plant? By what mechanism?
I think the problem is that I don't know what the flip you're talking about and neither do you. You seem to have a problem with science as though it is spoiling things with all it's measurements and rigid constraints. Science is just the asking and testing of questions in a structured way so as to avoid the pitfall of surmising spurious clap trap from our so called common sense as has been demonstrated admirably as being a phenomenon by you in this thread.
The burden of proof lies with the proponent of the theory. I don't need to prove it doesn't work (although I could have a blooming good go) any more than I need to prove there is no such thing as an invisible pink unicorn if you say there is. I believe I am entitled to my opinions on the OP just as you are. Although in my opinion you should be the exception.
Maybe this is me over thinking this but... The theory goes that the best time to harvest is at full moon when the moons gravity has pulled more moisture into the plant or fruit right?
Wouldn't the extra water in the fruit make the fruit less tasty? If it was true wouldn't the flavour be watered down?
I like my strawberries to taste of strawberries not Evian
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Not keen on science or reading? I'm beginning to see where the thinking is going astray. I didn't realise Moon Phase Planting was your idea? I thought it went back to Aristotle and his 'Elements' and 'contrary properties'.
"Now the rise and fall effect that is created by the moon, or sun and moon if you prefer, dictates where the plant applies that energy. When the pull is strong ( the gravitaional pull that causes a high tide) the energy expended in top growth, when it is low at low tides the plant energy is expended in growth low in the plant, as in roots."
This is tidal strength again. Gravitational pull = Tidal strength. The gravitational pull of the moon (or moon and sun) is insufficient to move water or food (I think this is what you mean when you say energy) in plants or in soil. That, science does know. Certainly I cannot say, and nor would I, as it would be unscientific, that there may not be some factor as yet untested, such as extra light from a full moon or night planters taking more care than day planters, which has an effect on plants. It is not gravitational pull though.
Ever met anyone who's never grown anything?
Gardening and farming holds a lot of superstitions, this is one.
My family has been in farming for generations and i can tell you without a shadow of a doubt, if a farmer could improve his yield by 0.5% then he'd be doing it.
0.5% sounds nothing, but as an example the UK produces around 75,000 tons of tomatoes a year.
0.5% of 75,000 is 375 tons each and every year.
That's just tomatoes factor in all the other fruit and vegetables and you have to be somewhere around 16 million tons of ruit and veg produced in the UK each year.
So even a 0.5% gain in yield would be VERY big business.
It's not just the UK either, i spoke with my mother-in-law about this, she grew up in a small village on the west side of Greece.
The village was (and still is) very much isolated.
When she was growing up, if there was a bad crop people literally starved to death.
She's told me stories of people in the village chewing on the leather soles of shoes to ward off hunger through bad harvests.
Being a Greek lady in her 70's you can imagine that she has a follows many superstitions.
When i asked her about lunar farming though she did crack a giggle
My advise is, if your curious then give it a go.
Plant another batch as you would usually and see if there is any difference.
For me and my experience a well planted and tended crop will grow better.
You can hedge your bets on when to plant
But still luck plays a vast vast factor in yield even in todays high tech world.
My view is that it's absolute rubbish.
A guy was sitting there thinking his horoscopes haven't been selling well, so came up with an idea to diversify his book sales by creating yet another gardening superstition.
Give it a go though, your not hurting anyone.
the hedgerow grubbing up was an idea the government had to increase available land, was a typical, not thought out move that recent governments have been trying to back track on. now they have to pay farmers to have hedgesI have no idea whether there is anything in lunar cycles.
I do know this, ignoring traditional, unscientific, farming methods and following, "modern", "new" and "scientific / industrial" mechanisms has caused untold damage and destruction to our long term agricultural futures.
From moving to NPK fertiliser from manure and compost we have managed to destroy long tem soil fertility, coupled with grubbing out hedgrows we now have soil erosion measured in tonnes per acre per year and vast loss of soil condition, moisture retention, soil life etc.
Perhaps there seemed no good reason to spread muck when peleted fertiliser or have all those inefficient hedges when the new, modern scientific, farming was developed.
We now have come to realise that many of the old ways, whilst seeming a little cumbersome, had evolved over millenia for sound reasons
there are plenty of papers debunking lunar planting as well, giving one side of an argument and presenting it as fact doesn't make it trueIts not about gain, you dont gain more crops per se. Its about harvesting at the best time for best quality. Or harvesting roots for storage when moisture content it low so they store for longer. Thats about it as far as harvesting goes. Planting at the right time shortens the growing season for that plant by a couple of weeks, it gives it a better start. Nothing more to it than that really.
if its ever proven in an impartial and controlled test that moon phase gardening works then I might attempt dibbing holes in a straight line in the dark. until then, regular gardening works perfectly well enough for me, fruit and veg tastes good when it's ready anywayThat applies to the others too
Debunkers are full of **** for the most part anyway.
if its ever proven in an impartial and controlled test that moon phase gardening works then I might attempt dibbing holes in a straight line in the dark. until then, regular gardening works perfectly well enough for me, fruit and veg tastes good when it's ready anyway