Perception, how do we look?
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Very different demographics and densities however - lets try to compare apples to apples.
Demographics of Finland - Wikipedia
Finland has 19 people per square KM
Demographics of the United Kingdom - Wikipedia
UK has 259 people per square KM.
I think its only natural the more complex a society grows the more the laws and restrictions grow with it.
Absolutely, that's why Hadrian Trump built a wall to keep the heathens out.Not me , I dont know what passes for laws in Scotland.
Savages....
It's reassuring to read too that folk are speaking in the present tense as though, one day, they will once again have the liberty to trespass.
And Antonine wall higher up to keep the worst of them further from civilisation. The Highlanders!!!!Absolutely, that's why Hadrian Trump built a wall to keep the heathens out.
It's reassuring to read too that folk are speaking in the present tense as though, one day, they will once again have the liberty to trespass.
Seriously, the Highlanders were heathens from a much later period but it shows how the lowlands Scot and those from higher north have long been treated differently. Hadrian's wall was a money making customs wall. You can trade nicely, and more importantly scalp them, with the lowland Scot. Less so the further north which iirc was more defensive than business in function.
The above may be tongue in cheek or not. But there are civilised people north of the lowlands. Afterall there's been talk in the far north of SCEXIT!!! That's civilisation!!!
If you want to talk about heathens you have to remember that the last part of Britain to accept Christianity was .... The Isle of Wight!And Antonine wall higher up to keep the worst of them further from civilisation. The Highlanders!!!!
Seriously, the Highlanders were heathens from a much later period but it shows how the lowlands Scot and those from higher north have long been treated differently. Hadrian's wall was a money making customs wall. You can trade nicely, and more importantly scalp them, with the lowland Scot. Less so the further north which iirc was more defensive than business in function.
The above may be tongue in cheek or not. But there are civilised people north of the lowlands. Afterall there's been talk in the far north of SCEXIT!!! That's civilisation!!!
The average does not really tell much. What should be compared is population density outside city areas and I don't think those numbers are available. Anyway walking on peoples yards is frowned on here too so I don't see all that much difference.
It is not really demographics but very different traditions.
"The population of the UK is spread unevenly, with the population density ranging from 5,700 people per square kilometre across London to fewer than 50 people per square kilometre in the most rural local authorities of the UK."
Population estimates for the UK, England and Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland, provisional - Office for National Statistics
National and subnational mid-year population estimates for the UK and its constituent countries by administrative area, age and sex
www.ons.gov.uk
People in cities leave cities to use the countryside, so city population should not be excluded when thinking about density/foot traffic in rural areas. This year particularly the areas I usually walk and see a handful of walkers have been heaving with people, positively trampled by crowds.
Demographics vs tradition. It could be argued that the historically population density was a driver for what became tradition.
I wear country/shooting wear around our villages as I think it looks very smart,I also wear my bushcraft clothing as I feel comfy in them,does that make me a potential criminal.
What does it really matter how we dress?
I can honestly say, if I was walking on a right of way/ foot path be it day or night & was challenged because of what I was wearing I wouldn’t be so pleased. I’m within the law & doing nothing wrong.
I wouldn’t be seen dead in bright clothing for a days hike in the hills/mountains as I wish to blend in, to be one with nature.
Only tourists wear bright clothing around here and no matter what colour jacket they had on they would be questioned if out at night; there's far too much rural crime going on and it's not (usually) the locals doing it. Having said that, badger baiting still goes on and those guys typically wear camo and the only thing worse you could have in your car than three dogs would be a spade
Best camouflage of all is a yellow hi viz jacket and a safety helmet, everybody will think you are out on a job. Everyone is of course free to dress as they like, but other people are also free to draw whatever conclusions they do about that, and that is something you cannot control.
You've proven my point, that's where queen Victoria felt most at home apparently. Backwards culture if not cultural heathens. Add in any edge of a country too.
Of course I'm not being wholly serious. I went to IoW once. Felt like Bournemouth to me. Could have been too. I was young and got put onto a big boat and for all I know could have just been sailed across to near Bournemouth without realising it. No intention on going back.
No camo but a folding spade lives in the van, always in there along with oversized high vis jacket, first aid, torch etc.Only tourists wear bright clothing around here and no matter what colour jacket they had on they would be questioned if out at night; there's far too much rural crime going on and it's not (usually) the locals doing it. Having said that, badger baiting still goes on and those guys typically wear camo and the only thing worse you could have in your car than three dogs would be a spade
That is not impossible. In this case I think the driver is the Finnish hunting tradition that is very different from anything more southern. The other reason for everymanrights is land ownership that never was dominated by nobility or comparable, feudalism somehow drifted past us and when Imperial Russia made a few lame tries it was already too late.
As to hunting clothes, I hate ammo loops and never carry any kill in a pocket of any kind. Elk hunters have to use hiviz vests and red hats but others use normal outdoor clothing.
There is nothing better than a night time walk in the country to awakens the senses.Only tourists wear bright clothing around here and no matter what colour jacket they had on they would be questioned if out at night; there's far too much rural crime going on and it's not (usually) the locals doing it. Having said that, badger baiting still goes on and those guys typically wear camo and the only thing worse you could have in your car than three dogs would be a spade
I understand rural places are an easy pick,( I live in one)but so are urban areas as their just isn’t the policing any more.(Bobby’s on the beat).
Bit of a different scenario here..What if I wore my shooting clothing in the town or city, does that make me a blood sport person or may have a weapon as I’ll look out of place?
If anyone is on a right off way no matter what time off the day, we are doing nothing wrong, so what right has anyone got to assume otherwise, no man is above the uk law.
Badger baiting, fox hunting, hare coursing..where do these people come from exactly?
What about rapture persecution, we all know who is responsible for that as it is proven.
So maybe more people visiting the country side could bring down crime as there’s more fear of criminals being seen & caught.
Is it because Elk & moose can’t see red/orange..thus making it easier for you to be seen by another person on a hunt?
That is the rationale, my experience is that elk do not see red, especially when even slightly uneven or mixed with other colours. A moving red blob is fairly easy for anyone not red/green colour blind to see.
I don't disagree; I love a night-time walk especially in moonlight. However, if you see a stranger doing it around here you are doing your civic duty by questioning them - it doesn't have to be aggressive, just polite 'how are you, have you travelled far?' etc.
As for where do these people come from - it's a wide cross section of society, each to a different "sport". Around here both gamekeepers and farmers are guilty of shooting what they like. Hare coursing (none around here) and badger baiting is usually from the towns.
It is my understanding that most herbivores do not see well in the red spectrum and, for some prey, hunters would be better off wearing red and black camo than green and black. Wonder how that would look in town
Red/black camo seems to exist, slightly odd looking but deer don't mind. Then there is ofcourse the Swiss "alpenfläge" which is a slightly strange version of pointilism in camo. Not camo at all from short distance but fair enough from longer ones when humans are looking.
