opinel knife not legal in uk?
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In the UK, in addition to the laws created by parliament there are also regulations which for example the railway operators can set.
You are not allowed to carry a knife on railway property at all. It does not matter how long is its cutting edge, nor whether or not it locks.
Sometimes the British Transport Police will ask people to walk through metal detectors which are occasionally installed at railway stations - usually for only a few hours.
You would be foolish to carry a knife of any description if you were spending Saturday night on a pub crawl in town, and you would probably be arrested if the police found you to be doing that.
Commons sense will usually prevail, but it doesn't always do so.
You are not allowed to carry a knife on railway property at all. It does not matter how long is its cutting edge, nor whether or not it locks.
Sometimes the British Transport Police will ask people to walk through metal detectors which are occasionally installed at railway stations - usually for only a few hours.
You would be foolish to carry a knife of any description if you were spending Saturday night on a pub crawl in town, and you would probably be arrested if the police found you to be doing that.
Commons sense will usually prevail, but it doesn't always do so.
That would probably fall under the good reason clause. I've never had trouble with it so long as it's INSIDE the bag.
You could remove the locking ring from an opinel and carry the 2 items seperately. Then you're carrying a non locking knife and a metal ring. Although there are some good UK carry knives out there now
And yes Ged that included my rather serious machete in the bag. Not my other thankfully
As I said, common sense sometimes prevails. But if they're having another crackdown, all bets are off.
A few years ago East Midlands Trains dumped my wife and twenty other passengers in Leicester at 2AM with no alternative transport.
The taxi firms variously told her there was nothing available or a four hour queue. She got me out of bed to drive 60 miles to fetch her.
We got no response to requests for compensation from East Midlands Trains.
So I refuse use trains any more, but if I did (like if I lost both legs and all my friends) then I'd make other arrangements for sharps, such as borrowing something when I got there.
Actually I think the members of BCUK would be outnumbered, and by quite a large margin, by the people who are encouraged to use public transport because there are likely to be fewer people on board carrying knives
There is no such clause on the railways. Knives are forbidden, full stop.
A blade is legal i believe if its 3" or under and non locking. Unless of course you have a good reason for having it..
Going on this if you buy a number 6 or below it would be legal to carry if you just take the locking ring off. You might even be able to carry the locking ring in a separate pocket to replace it if needs be, i don't know how legal carrying both items together would be however.
Tonyuk
Going on this if you buy a number 6 or below it would be legal to carry if you just take the locking ring off. You might even be able to carry the locking ring in a separate pocket to replace it if needs be, i don't know how legal carrying both items together would be however.
Tonyuk
Didn't know that about the trains
i bloody hate train stations in towns these days anyway, the way they ambush you on the way OUT gets my goat.......Always puts me in mind of a police state
i bloody hate train stations in towns these days anyway, the way they ambush you on the way OUT gets my goat.......Always puts me in mind of a police state
If I remember from previous threads the "good reason" pertains to the law in general but the railway is private property and the prohibition is within their property rights.
Didn't know about the total ban on trains either, not good as I habitually have a wee knife on my person, even if it's just a tiny SAK on my keys.
(Heck, I used to travel by train with bows, practice swords & rifles every weekend when I was younger).
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(Heck, I used to travel by train with bows, practice swords & rifles every weekend when I was younger).
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A law which must be universally broken on every station where a catering service is provided then. I have only ever once seen a "knife arch" in operation, and then only the "usual suspects" were selected to go through. If you avoid travelling on match days you will probably never see one at all.
In 2010 i was arrested for violence, and served 7 months in Armley on remand for it. When arrested i had a douk douk on my keys (it's still on there now). Not a word was said. After i was sentenced (non custodial) i was handed the knife back, it having been through both the police and prison systems. No problem whatsoever.......even though i was classed as a high risk prisoner " capable of sudden and extreme violence" Due to my military background.
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I have traveled many times by train with my mora clipper in my pack, never had any trouble.... The railway bylaws may well prohibit it but I would not expect them to be enforced in such circumstances, I was told by one BTP officer that provided it's buried deep in a pack with associated camping gear he personally would have no problem
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And the only specifically banned items I can find in the national conditions of carriage are
The only premises that is specifically dealt with by 139A is schools so also not a problem there... The only reference to public transport I can find says that it could be considered an aggravating factor....
From this i must conclude that the normal law of the land applies to carrying any type of bladed article on a train although the train company are within their rights to refuse you travel if they so wish there is nothing specifically illegal
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Is the closest I can find in law that could be used to prohibit carrying any sort of knife...
And the only specifically banned items I can find in the national conditions of carriage are
The only premises that is specifically dealt with by 139A is schools so also not a problem there... The only reference to public transport I can find says that it could be considered an aggravating factor....
From this i must conclude that the normal law of the land applies to carrying any type of bladed article on a train although the train company are within their rights to refuse you travel if they so wish there is nothing specifically illegal
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