New from maker of Sissipuukko.

[Tony]

Is that M23 ranger a bit expensive

I've been talking to Peltonen and the expense of it came up, the thing thats pushing the cost up is the Kydex sheath. There's also been a steep increase in the cost of the blades (steel, manufacturing etc) that's had an impact. The other knives will be going up in price from April which will seperate the two bigger knives from the M23 a bit further in price.

 

[Tony]

I asked Peltonen about availability and they said that Lamnia and others will probably have them in stock next week. Apparently, Moonraker have expressed an interest in stocking them but nothing firm yet. Later in the month, you will be able to order them direct from Peltonen - so that's another option.

Following on form my post above...
They're looking to have a number of dealers in the UK, Moonraker is one of them with a stock of the M95 and M07 models, and The Bushcraft Store is one of them and will soon have a full stock of Peltonen knives as you can see HERE

 

[Tony]

Well, my M23 pikkusissi has just dropped onto my doormat. I ordered one in coyote brown from Lamnia - hats off to them for a very efficient service.

The knife is very well made and is sent absolutely razor sharp out of the box. It comes with a ten year guarantee and with a variety of ways of carrying it, including neck and side carry, the latter using the peppered strap-thing on the kydex sheath.

It is a very handsome but entirely practical blade shape, made of 80CrV2 steel, hardened to 62 HRC. The handle, made of a sort of rubbery material, feels comfortable in the hand.

So much for initial impressions. I'm now going to get to know it a bit better and will feed back my findings, should that prove useful. However, initial observations are entirely positive; I think this is going to be a really useful cracker of a knife!

How are you finding it?

I've just had one arrive for review, along with the M95 and M07, it's a lovely little knife.

 

[Springchicken]

How are you finding it?

I've just had one arrive for review, along with the M95 and M07, it's a lovely little knife.

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The M23 is an absolute gem. I have used it for a variety of bushcrafty tasks - carving a spoon, making a try stick and feather sticks - and it has performed faultlessly on each one. I was going to offer up a review with a few pictures but, at this stage, this little cutting tool goes with me everywhere and I just know that I can rely on it. It is superb... utterly superb!

I'll be very interested to read your review of the range once you've had a chance to get to know them all.

 

[Tony]

Please do offer up a review of your usage and experiences with the M23, you're well ahead of me in using it and what you've already covered will likely be more than I get to do with it. The more the merrier as they say!

 

[chimpy leon]

Handy looking little knife these.

I fancy one in orange but I’ll take whatever lands in the U.K…
Not found anyone here who stocks them yet though.

 

[Turnip]

Handy looking little knife these.

I fancy one in orange but I’ll take whatever lands in the U.K…
Not found anyone here who stocks them yet though.

Ranger Cub M23 Coyote | Moonraker Knives

www.moonrakerknives.co.uk

 

[chimpy leon]

Ranger Cub M23 Coyote | Moonraker Knives

www.moonrakerknives.co.uk

Thanks Turnip, they must have just got them in at Moonraker.

 

[Nice65]

Thanks Turnip, they must have just got them in at Moonraker.

In orange too. I’m liking that M95 but have just got my Terävä 140 shaving sharp and the Peltonens seem to have that secondary bevel so I cant really justify the M95.

The M23 looks to be a zero grind? But I’ve also just got my little wooden handled Moras super sharp too. My wallet would thank me if I put this thread on ignore! A Lionsteel M4 seems to have arrived yesterday.

 

[chimpy leon]

In orange too. I’m liking that M95 but have just got my Terävä 140 shaving sharp and the Peltonens seem to have that secondary bevel so I cant really justify the M95.

The M23 looks to be a zero grind? But I’ve also just got my little wooden handled Moras super sharp too. My wallet would thank me if I put this thread on ignore! A Lionsteel M4 seems to have arrived yesterday.

Not too sure if it has a secondary bevel or not but I am kind of intrigued by the hardness; a stated 62 HRC is higher than I would expect this steel to maintain good toughness, but I’m certainly not complaining.

 

[Springchicken]

I've now had a bit of time to get to know my M23 and so I offer this little review with my findings.

I find myself using smaller knives quite a lot nowadays. When out in the woods, I still carry and utilise a 'standard' (c. 11cm blade) knife but the shorter, finer blades are easier to use and, in many ways, just as efficient. This prompted my interest in Peltonen's new model.



The picture gives you some idea of the M23's size. Below are a Ben Orford Pixie, an Orford Campcraft and one of the Terrava models - I can't remember which. Certainly, there's not a lot in it when it comes to blade length; however, the M23 does have a much finer point on it than the others. I suppose this could be one of the factors driving the stated hardness of 62 on the Rockwell scale - it's a way on ensuring the fine tip does not get damaged.

I tried a fairly usual little battery of tests with the M23. It throws a pretty good shower of sparks from a ferrocerium rod and was very nimble in creating curls for a feather stick, in this case, hazel:



It proved very handy when producing a slightly hurried try stick 'lite'. I know that there are a good number of additional cuts one can include on a try stick but I prefer to practise the ones I am likely to use, hence its pared down appearance:



Inevitably, a spoon came next. This was carved from a piece of recently felled quince. Although splitting the log and carving the bowl utilised different tools, the rest was done with the M23. It proved to be really wonderful, particularly around the shoulders of the bowl and the junction with the handle. Because the blade is short, it was simplicity itself to maintain control of the cuts; equally, the fineness of the tip made carving the curves very straightforward.



The design of the spoon has a long handle to get into the corners of the dehydrated meals more readily. I will be using this one on my outing along the Southern Uplands Way later on this year. It has been baked and finished with walnut oil. I apologise to the purists out there: it has a sanded, rather than carved, finish as that's what I prefer!

In conclusion, then, I have found the M23 to be a superb and capable cutting tool that would be a worthy addition to any bushcrafter's 'normal' knife. It is shaving sharp out of the box, very comfortable to use in the hand, is very well made and finished. I'm not sure it will oust my Pixie from its position as my second knife but I have found myself carrying it everywhere and using it regularly because it is a delight to use.

There was an earlier comment about its price when compared with the Terrava equivalent to which I would say the M23 is a superior knife in every single way and so is worth the extra you pay for it.

To anyone thinking of getting a second, smaller blade, I would thoroughly recommend the M23.

 

[Robbi]

I've now had a bit of time to get to know my M23 and so I offer this little review with my findings.

I find myself using smaller knives quite a lot nowadays. When out in the woods, I still carry and utilise a 'standard' (c. 11cm blade) knife but the shorter, finer blades are easier to use and, in many ways, just as efficient. This prompted my interest in Peltonen's new model.

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The picture gives you some idea of the M23's size. Below are a Ben Orford Pixie, an Orford Campcraft and one of the Terrava models - I can't remember which. Certainly, there's not a lot in it when it comes to blade length; however, the M23 does have a much finer point on it than the others. I suppose this could be one of the factors driving the stated hardness of 62 on the Rockwell scale - it's a way on ensuring the fine tip does not get damaged.

I tried a fairly usual little battery of tests with the M23. It throws a pretty good shower of sparks from a ferrocerium rod and was very nimble in creating curls for a feather stick, in this case, hazel:

View attachment 87077

It proved very handy when producing a slightly hurried try stick 'lite'. I know that there are a good number of additional cuts one can include on a try stick but I prefer to practise the ones I am likely to use, hence its pared down appearance:

View attachment 87078

Inevitably, a spoon came next. This was carved from a piece of recently felled quince. Although splitting the log and carving the bowl utilised different tools, the rest was done with the M23. It proved to be really wonderful, particularly around the shoulders of the bowl and the junction with the handle. Because the blade is short, it was simplicity itself to maintain control of the cuts; equally, the fineness of the tip made carving the curves very straightforward.

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The design of the spoon has a long handle to get into the corners of the dehydrated meals more readily. I will be using this one on my outing along the Southern Uplands Way later on this year. It has been baked and finished with walnut oil. I apologise to the purists out there: it has a sanded, rather than carved, finish as that's what I prefer!

In conclusion, then, I have found the M23 to be a superb and capable cutting tool that would be a worthy addition to any bushcrafter's 'normal' knife. It is shaving sharp out of the box, very comfortable to use in the hand, is very well made and finished. I'm not sure it will oust my Pixie from its position as my second knife but I have found myself carrying it everywhere and using it regularly because it is a delight to use.

There was an earlier comment about its price when compared with the Terrava equivalent to which I would say the M23 is a superior knife in every single way and so is worth the extra you pay for it.

To anyone thinking of getting a second, smaller blade, I would thoroughly recommend the M23.

I'm intrigued by that bottom blade, anyone know what it is.?

 

[Lore]

Terävä Jääkäripuukko 85, Carbon Steel

A very small and handy little knife with a drop point puukko style blade profile.

www.varusteleka.com

Currently out of stock

 

[engtorch]

Is the blade steel made by Fiskars?

 

[Herman30]

Is the blade steel made by Fiskars?

Fiskars don´t make steel.
Knife is made by Laurin Metalli in Kauhajoki but where the steel is made I have no idea.

 

[engtorch]

They made the steel or had some part in the production of Sissipuukko.

I look up M95 and some sites even use Fiskars in the name. I studied up on this knife back in 2011 or so. I wanted one but Mora 2000 was so much better priced.

 

[Herman30]

J-P Peltonen who is the maker of Sissipuukko used to be in Fiskars village. The company Fiskars have never had anything to do with Sissipuukko or Varustelekas knives. Fiskars company used to make steel but sold that part of their business in the 50´s. https://fiskarsvillage.fi/en/

 

[Herman30]

Fiskars village interesting drink tap.

 

[alphaburner]

Orange one on the way!

 

[TLM]

The company Fiskars have never had anything to do with Sissipuukko

You may well be right but I have somewhere a faint memory that they might have been involved in making the bayonets that Peltonen used for his first sissipuukkos, don't really remember well.