MTP Smock, water beading.

[Herman30]

I have the latest MTP smock, Smock 2, combat...., and the water beading off the surface is excellent. The fabric simply refuses to get wet.
Question is, is this due to some treatment that will eventually wear off or is it a permanent feature of the fabric?

I know that the finnish M05-uniform is 50/50 cotton/polyester. And the weave is made in such a way that most of the polyester is on the surface of the fabric making it better at shedding water and abrasion proof.
Perhaps the british smock fabric is made likewise?

 

[MikeLA]

Believe it will eventually wash and wear off but just reproof with nikwax

 

[Statts]

Does the Smock 2 have zips on the hand warmer pockets? I added them to my Smock 1 and it's DWR is excellent

 

[Herman30]

Does the Smock 2 have zips on the hand warmer pockets?

Yes, it have zips factory made.

 

[Statts]

Thanks for confirming that.

 

[Bert]

is that different than the MTP smock with the mesh inside and the fleece handwarmers?
I found that those are too thight under the arms due to the zipper, I added some tissue extra there.

 

[Tonyuk]

The new smocks have fabric instead of the mesh, and zips on the handwarmer pockets, the fleece is also a bit lighter.

Much better than the first 2 types.

 

[Bert]

@Tonyuk,

I was over ebay, and all I could find were these soldier 95, and the first model with handwarmers and mesh inside.
would you mind to give a link or so for this 2nd model??? I can't find that model.
Thanks, Bert

 

[Billy-o]

The new smocks have fabric instead of the mesh,

So, super windproof

Is this one 100% cotton or is it polycotton, 50:50?

 

[Bert]

Smocks from the MTP type camo I only have seen in polycotton 50/50

 

[Bert]

anyone a link for the latest MTP smock with handwarmers with zips, and inside lined with tissue instead of mesh?

 

[bobnewboy]

You could ask at Strikeforcesupplies.co.uk ? They have a large range of current issue MTP PCS stuff for sale.

 

[Billy-o]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/160-104-42-NEW-Smock-2-Genuine-British-Army-PCS-MTP-Windproof-Combat-Military/382117393148?_trksid=p2047675.c100623.m-1&_trkparms=aid=222007&algo=SIM.MBE&ao=2&asc=41375&meid=87e28124a5374662823f3a334fd24b47&pid=100623&rk=4&rkt=4&sd=152392267529

This help? I'd have looked into it myself it it had been the right size

 

[Billy-o]

Also this walkaround. It's 100% cotton

I get confused with the various iterations of smocks and copies of them. Cameron Konkol here seems to say that this one supersedes the PCS model .. .which is sort of what I had imagined, but didn't know for a fact.

Note the mention of the smaller hood than previously standard, and overall the thing seems much simpler, no zip pockets , lighter etc

 

[Bert]

well, It suprises me quite a bit that the MOD does sooo many different types from one thing, since they started with the MTP they had the '95 model, the PCS, PCS MPV model, the para smock, now the PCS2 smock.... and that model in the film.

The PCS smock I loved in the beginning, I thought it was a good mod, the mesh, ventilation and so, it's a pity that the mesh can't stand the use.
it's because that the mesh clings to anything, and frays a lot where it comes into contact with hook and loop, and I really don't get why they use it on pockets (the inside Napoleon pockets) it really doesn't need much to get a hole in it and losing the contents of the pocket.
therefore I hope I can get my hands on a pair of smock 2 quickly.

Thanks!

 

[Trojan]

Also have a look at the Tantalus DPM smock - I found them excellent.

 

[Bert]

I guess you didn't understand me well, I dislike the mesh, though the mesh from the Tantalus project seems to be different?!
The ventilation is a good Idea, but bad executed.

 

[Tonyuk]

So, super windproof

Is this one 100% cotton or is it polycotton, 50:50?

No more windproof than the others with the mesh imo, just more practical.

They're 50/50