Middlewood Scout Camp Meet

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Matt Weir

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Not too sure. I see it being made by just pushing the ends into the ground, so it would end up looking like a very small hooped tent! Without the fly sheet!

I suppose you would need to get a few billy cans on top, so maybe a couple of feet long by a foot wide, and maybe 8 to 12 inches high? Total guesswork of course, maybe some of the archealogical sorts could give us a more definitive answer. Saying that, I think the experimenting is half of the fun!

I'm thinking we may be told to build it on top of stone slabs or even one of the existing fire altars rather than directly onto the ground? I will look at collecting some material tonight.
 

Chris G

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Matt - "2" doesn't sound a lot " Oh-err misses!

As they say, it depends on how you use it! It will probably end up sitting in a seperate tray anyway to that should remove problems of scortching/ buring underneath.

Chris
 

Matt Weir

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Kind of like this affair?

Clayoven.jpg


Sorry for the poor paint skills :eek: but I hope you get the idea.
 

Matt Weir

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Matt - "2" doesn't sound a lot " Oh-err misses!

As they say, it depends on how you use it! It will probably end up sitting in a seperate tray anyway to that should remove problems of scortching/ buring underneath.

Chris

LOL, yes, I see what you mean about the ash pan Chris.
 

spamel

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That's almost exactly how I see it working, maybe a couple of holes in the top to allow flame and heat through for pots on top. They could be closed with some clay lids perhaps, when needing to use it as an oven.
 

PJMCBear

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I think the oven would have to be 3' wide x 2' high.

It shouldn't take long to make a rough basket. Someone can be mixing straw with the clay whilst it's put together (straw helps to prevent cracking while it's fired).

Once the embers of the firing burn down they are pushed to the outside edge of the dome, away from the centre where your baking goods go.
 

Matt Weir

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So, this oxtail collective of your's Spamel?

You mention big chunks do it for you so how about we get some real oxtail, brown it off then leave it to simmer in the soup until it falls to pieces?
 

Matt Weir

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That sounds like a good idea, there are a few cows round here that probably don't need their tails, or can you actually buy it in UK?!

Oh aiye, any decent butcher will do it and it's cheap too.

I'll put an order in with my local butcher should I?

My mum makes it by brazing it in the oven in onion or leek gravy and it takes a couple of hours so maybe I should pre-braze it and bring it down ready?
 

spamel

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MMmmmmmmmmmm! Sounds good already! I saw it for sale in Germany, but I've never seen it round here. Maybe I haven't looked hard enough! So, how many meals have we got sorted now?!
 

Matt Weir

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Well, the oxtail special and cheese and chutney so far and if we get the go ahead on the clay oven then maybe we can do something on the Sunday if it's ready?

I think that food is going to be the main theme of this event :D
 

spamel

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Has to be in the winter, food gives you energy which keeps you warm! I've got to get some more stags breath aswell, I've not put much of a dent in my second bottle yet, but yet is the operative word!
 

spamel

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I've heard of welsh rarebit, cheese on toast innit? What's the english version all about?

Also, what did vikings eat! I'll bet they didn't eat crap food!
 

SOAR

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I can't wait for this meet now, a group cook sounds good to me, do we all need to bring something?. I can see those couldrons going now Wayland, with the clay oven alongside.

Simon.
 
group cook up sounds great :) I sometimes make black peas and neck of mutton on bonfire night its a traditional nw dish from the olden days has cow heal in it :D its very nice the cows heel dissolves into it. if anyone fancies that i will look at getting some stuff together , I would have to find a big pan I don't mind using on a fire though and it would take a full day simmer
 

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