Too true. I am gonna try and get out this weekend for a recce with Ratbag, I've got over the horrid cold that punished me for the last week! Two bad illnesses in a month is no joking matter. We're looking at going up to Wharnecliff Crags for a look around to see what's going down these days. I'm looking forward to it as I used to camp up there years ago with my younger brother.