Methods of coping with stress......

taws6

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Great advise about vigourous walking, I bet I can use that. I like swimming too, that can help relax the mind too.

Sometimes the problem why I get stressed I think is because I don't get the time to do what I want to do, I just seem to spend days sometimes with work / chores etc without a break. Even an hour or two can be difficult to get to myself, thank F@!£ I don't have kids!!!
 
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I stopped drinking coffee at work, I have green tea instead now. My caffeine intake is a fraction of what it once was and I've started sleeping every night (I used to sleep every other night some weeks :))
 

scrogger

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The outdoors is a wonderful tonic. I also find spending time away form home is what does it for me as I have worked from home running my own business for a number of years.

Laughing, walking the dogs, and dare I say it S~x!!!

All good stress busters.

jmho!
 

Shewie

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Sometimes the problem why I get stressed I think is because I don't get the time to do what I want to do, I just seem to spend days sometimes with work / chores etc without a break. Even an hour or two can be difficult to get to myself, thank F@!£ I don't have kids!!!


Not enough hours in the day, not enough days in the year etc etc

I feel exactly the same sometimes, I get bored of doing the same boring job day in day out when there's so many better things to be doing in life.

I have a dream though, it's not much but it's something to work towards.
 

Broch

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As others have experienced I have been through extreme stress that without doubt would have killed me if I had not found ways of dealing with it.

A few basic tools have helped me. Firstly learn and apply good time-management skills. There's nothing more stressful than knowing you've go too much to do so you've got to prioritise. Secondly learn and use some basic meditation processes (no really, not hippy stuff, just some basic methods). The last thing is always have a dream running - a trip planned, a new project, or even a new lifestyle!

I found that the worse time was trying to sleep so I would play over and over again the planning of the dream - it's a form of meditation - and each night I'd get a bit further in the plan. It kept me sane.

I live a much less stressful life now and if I feel a bit up tight I just have to walk out of the back door and into the woods!

Cheers,

Broch
 

taws6

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Shewie: "I get bored of doing the same boring job day in day out when there's so many better things to be doing in life.

I have a dream though, it's not much but it's something to work towards".

I have exactly the same, plans, living for the future I guess. The thought that it will all be worth it when/if I/we pull it off. Problems have been huge lately, and it feels as if the last several years hard trying may have all been for nothing, and we might get dumped right back down to the bottom of the heap with nothing to show for it all, you know what I mean?

Broch: "The last thing is always have a dream running - a trip planned, a new project, or even a new lifestyle!"
Exactly what I have been doing, although as I say, my dreams seem to be slipping away lately.
I am off to Latitude festival this weekend, so that's helped me have something different to focus on, and has helped somewhat.
I guess I may need some smaller, easier to acheive goals, problem is I've already acheived most of the smaller ones, only leaving the bigger goals that are more time consuming and difficult to do.....
Talking openly on here has helped a bit I guess, and I agree Gailainne, this is a great forum
 

malente

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I too have some big dreams and projects, but they also have a tendency to be very slippery and do slip away more often than not :(

Alas, one day.... ;)
 

Broch

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It's not whether the dream becomes reality or not that matters - it's the process of concentrating on it and working through it in your mind that helps with the stress. Each time you dwell on it add a little more detail to the plan. If you find your mind wandering off onto the stuff that's stressing you start back at the beginning again and replan. These can be small projects or big ones - keep a few running at a time to fall back on.

At my most stressfull point in my career I planned to get away from it all and live a much simpler life - I suddenly realized that my plan B was far more interesting and enjoyable than plan A (the stressful career). What is scary about changes in lifestyle is when we don't control them.

Cheers,

Broch
 

Leonidas

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Just taken on the implementation of a 40 Million $ piece of business....sounds huge, not really it is just telephone number.
Spent the last two years doing mergers and acquisitions in the billions....

Yes it is important and needs doing well...but it is not 'that' important, do we put the same effort into our down time?

In reality it is all a distraction, the real important thing in life amounts to realizing we are not even a speck on the boil on the bottom of the cosmos.

We are just travelling through.
We do not own anything, it is on loan.
As soon as this becomes apparent it becomes time to simply enjoy the journey, or periodically stop what you are doing just to take it all in.

Let the rat's run the race, I've opted out :)
 

swanseajack

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, the real important thing in life amounts to realizing we are not even a speck on the boil on the bottom of the cosmos.

We are just travelling through.
We do not own anything, it is on loan.
As soon as this becomes apparent it becomes time to simply enjoy the journey, or periodically stop what you are doing just to take it all in.
I realized this while looking down from an aeroplane. I saw cities, houses and traffic jams the size of grains of sand, they didn't mean anything really!
I still get stressed out sometimes though
 

Ishmael

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All is wrong with the world. I think that is one of the main causes of stress. But people like ourselves, who practice arts such as bushcraft, have a distinct advantage over most other people – we possess the means of escape. It does not matter whether we disappear into the woods for a whole month or just an afternoon, we can break away from the stresses of the modern world and return to our primitive past. And when we do this, we find that whatever may happen, whatever misfortunes may befall our society, even if the worst comes to the worst we can not merely survive, we can even prosper.

Speaking for myself, one of the major causes of stress in my life is a feeling of powerlessness; that the world is all wrong but that there is nothing that I can do to put it right, and that the people we employ to put it right are utterly incompetent to do so.

I cannot tell you why I go into the woods. Perhaps it is the ‘lure of little voices’, as Shackleton put it. Whatever the reason, I am drawn by some mysterious and irresistible magnetism.

When I set out, my mind is full of trivial clutter and I find myself conducting absurd subconscious arguments with people who do not exist, about things that have never happened.

But gradually my mind clears. Each step takes me farther from the world of the common day; farther from gas bills and microwave ovens; farther from technology and that illusion that is called progress. The din of civilisation fades, to be replaced by the song of Nature. Suddenly, the crunch of gravel underfoot becomes the sweetest music; the yaffle of the woodpecker the most eloquent poetry; the rustle of leaves the most stirring symphony.

The trail leads us between a tall stand of villainous pines, but we ignore them and fix our eye upon the point far ahead where the track vanishes into the great wild woods. We have not yet quite left the outside world, but the creak of pack straps and the clank of mess tins draw us ever farther away.

Then we enter the woods. The sun is obscured by the canopy and all is green – thousands of different shades of green. But this is not an alien world to us. We have learned to live in this world. It has given up its secrets to us. See that tree over there? Time was when we should have marvelled at such a tree, and wondered what it was; and we would have been astounded by its colossal size, its bizarre shape, its extraordinary spiral bark. We marvel still, but now we can identify this tree. We can tell if it was planted or whether it grew here naturally. We can even make a reasonable estimation of its age.

The monologues in our mind have adapted to this change in environment. We are no longer discussing pay-as-you-go rates, but that browsing roe deer at the edge of the ride up ahead. We congratulate ourselves for having moved so softly over the earth that it is unaware of our presence.

It is time to eat now. We find a fallen tree that will serve as our dining table and we scrape away at the ground with our boot to make our oven. Soon, the kettle is singing merrily on the tiny fire. As we munch on our meal and sip our scalding tea, we may be drawn momentarily back to the real world, but this does not last. An hour has passed and there is work to do. It is time to be up and away.

The fire is out; the embers burnt away to cinders, the cinders soaked and crushed into a thin grey paste. The site of our fire is invisible beneath the leaf litter, and only a few flattened blades of grass betray the fact that any human being has ever set foot here.

We shoulder our load, and as we move on the world of the common day is long forgotten. We have a full belly, a comfortable load and a verdant trail stretching out before us. We belong here now, just as all the other animals and plants belong here. It is as if we have always been here. We know of no other world than this.

As the afternoon wears on we begin to search for a place to camp. We find a little patch of grass in the middle of a stand of oak saplings. Perhaps it is raining now, but in no time we are lounging in our hammock, the tarp above our head shedding little silver trails of water that drip-drip-drip onto the luxuriant grass beneath us.

In the evening the rain stops and the sun comes out. Smoke rising from the dying fire mingles with the vapours rising out of the wet earth and is bisected by the shafts of sunlight as it coils around the branches and twigs above our head.

The sky darkens. All around us are strange noises and grotesque shadows. To some people this would be a place of such utter abomination that they would prefer to spend a night in the most haunted of haunted houses. But we are not frightened by this other-worldliness. We are at home here. Sheltering beneath the green vault of our tarp we are more snug and secure than if we were stretched out on a four-poster bed beneath the domes and turrets of some splendid palace.

The first stars appear as we lounge in our hammock, staring dreamily up at the balsamic moon. The world of the common day is far away. The stress has gone. We have become part of the woods. As a glistening orb drips from a leaf and falls with a hiss into the embers of the dying fire, we close our eyes. All is well with the world.
 
I know it's not particularly bushcrafty but I find that when I've had a belly-full of the sort of complete morons that life seems to require you to deal with & the sometimes insurmountable levels of stress that can cause I retreat into music.
I've always found playing music so completely absorbs both body & mind that it can heal the soul more fully than anything else I know!
:beerchug:
 

Spaniel man

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All is wrong with the world. I think that is one of the main causes of stress. But people like ourselves, who practice arts such as bushcraft, have a distinct advantage over most other people – we possess the means of escape. It does not matter whether we disappear into the woods for a whole month or just an afternoon, we can break away from the stresses of the modern world and return to our primitive past. And when we do this, we find that whatever may happen, whatever misfortunes may befall our society, even if the worst comes to the worst we can not merely survive, we can even prosper.

Speaking for myself, one of the major causes of stress in my life is a feeling of powerlessness; that the world is all wrong but that there is nothing that I can do to put it right, and that the people we employ to put it right are utterly incompetent to do so.

I cannot tell you why I go into the woods. Perhaps it is the ‘lure of little voices’, as Shackleton put it. Whatever the reason, I am drawn by some mysterious and irresistible magnetism.

When I set out, my mind is full of trivial clutter and I find myself conducting absurd subconscious arguments with people who do not exist, about things that have never happened.

But gradually my mind clears. Each step takes me farther from the world of the common day; farther from gas bills and microwave ovens; farther from technology and that illusion that is called progress. The din of civilisation fades, to be replaced by the song of Nature. Suddenly, the crunch of gravel underfoot becomes the sweetest music; the yaffle of the woodpecker the most eloquent poetry; the rustle of leaves the most stirring symphony.

The trail leads us between a tall stand of villainous pines, but we ignore them and fix our eye upon the point far ahead where the track vanishes into the great wild woods. We have not yet quite left the outside world, but the creak of pack straps and the clank of mess tins draw us ever farther away.

Then we enter the woods. The sun is obscured by the canopy and all is green – thousands of different shades of green. But this is not an alien world to us. We have learned to live in this world. It has given up its secrets to us. See that tree over there? Time was when we should have marvelled at such a tree, and wondered what it was; and we would have been astounded by its colossal size, its bizarre shape, its extraordinary spiral bark. We marvel still, but now we can identify this tree. We can tell if it was planted or whether it grew here naturally. We can even make a reasonable estimation of its age.

The monologues in our mind have adapted to this change in environment. We are no longer discussing pay-as-you-go rates, but that browsing roe deer at the edge of the ride up ahead. We congratulate ourselves for having moved so softly over the earth that it is unaware of our presence.

It is time to eat now. We find a fallen tree that will serve as our dining table and we scrape away at the ground with our boot to make our oven. Soon, the kettle is singing merrily on the tiny fire. As we munch on our meal and sip our scalding tea, we may be drawn momentarily back to the real world, but this does not last. An hour has passed and there is work to do. It is time to be up and away.

The fire is out; the embers burnt away to cinders, the cinders soaked and crushed into a thin grey paste. The site of our fire is invisible beneath the leaf litter, and only a few flattened blades of grass betray the fact that any human being has ever set foot here.

We shoulder our load, and as we move on the world of the common day is long forgotten. We have a full belly, a comfortable load and a verdant trail stretching out before us. We belong here now, just as all the other animals and plants belong here. It is as if we have always been here. We know of no other world than this.

As the afternoon wears on we begin to search for a place to camp. We find a little patch of grass in the middle of a stand of oak saplings. Perhaps it is raining now, but in no time we are lounging in our hammock, the tarp above our head shedding little silver trails of water that drip-drip-drip onto the luxuriant grass beneath us.

In the evening the rain stops and the sun comes out. Smoke rising from the dying fire mingles with the vapours rising out of the wet earth and is bisected by the shafts of sunlight as it coils around the branches and twigs above our head.

The sky darkens. All around us are strange noises and grotesque shadows. To some people this would be a place of such utter abomination that they would prefer to spend a night in the most haunted of haunted houses. But we are not frightened by this other-worldliness. We are at home here. Sheltering beneath the green vault of our tarp we are more snug and secure than if we were stretched out on a four-poster bed beneath the domes and turrets of some splendid palace.

The first stars appear as we lounge in our hammock, staring dreamily up at the balsamic moon. The world of the common day is far away. The stress has gone. We have become part of the woods. As a glistening orb drips from a leaf and falls with a hiss into the embers of the dying fire, we close our eyes. All is well with the world.

Amazing first post fella, just reading it destressed me a bit!
 

malente

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Ishmael, very inspiring post... welcome, too!

Just a thought: Ishmael, if bushcraft for you is a form of escapism, it would only help against the symptome, in this case stress. But does it tackle the root cause, i.e. powerlessness? (no negative criticism here, I actually see a tiny wee of myself here so would like your opinion on it).

Cheers

Mike
 

Ishmael

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Thank you, everyone, for your kind words of welcome. In answer to Malente’s very valid question, you are quite right. I may well return from a trip to the woods de-stressed, but I am just as powerless as I was when I set out.

But I don’t feel that way. I feel as though I have the power not to be a part of the modern world and all its silliness. I may not have the power to end war, or poverty, or injustice, but I have the power not to conform. And I do have the power, in some tiny way, to make the world a better place.

For some time, whenever I have gone out in my canoe, I have made a point of bringing home a sack of rubbish. Last year I planted four acorns and half a dozen crab apple seeds. They are flourishing now in pots in my back garden. This year I intend to grow elder, rowan and hazel. Will such a tiny thing as this make the world a better place? I don’t know, but it can’t do any harm.

I am sure there are many who believe that the world is run by the wrong people, who make the wrong decisions and are motivated by the wrong principles, and that there is absolutely nothing that anyone can do to change it. Perhaps it is time to stop trying. Perhaps, after all, I have been wrong all this time. Perhaps I should just take a step back and watch the modern world go on ahead, then turn and walk the other way.

For those of us who follow the generally solitary trail of the bushcrafter, it is good that we should meet in the electronic crossing of the ways and exchange ideas and philosophies. The Internet and forums such as this are one of the advantages that technology has brought us. In a way it empowers us all the more.
 

Landy_Dom

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STRESS – Argh I’ve had a life full, but I think I’ve cracked it.

I started out in a job for the MoD that daily I was faced with sometimes danger, sometimes horrific scenes, sometimes massive work load and always huge responsibility to get it right against the odds – rewarded with redundancy. Then I started a business and was daily faced with staff and clients’ unreasonable attitudes in a high stress high risk business with, as ever, massive work load and always huge responsibility. After discovering what a crook my partner was I walked and left everything I’d built for 10 years. No money equals no Mrs, she left. To pick myself up, I then got a job that I hated, with people I couldn’t trust commuting nearly 200 miles a day. After three years of hell I’m redundant again, I can’t find a job as there aren’t any.

I’ve suffered from incredible stress for over 20 years and it has taken its toll on me in every way. So am I stressed now – NO. I take the attitude now that it’s a huge cosmic joke. I’m warm and dry, full and entertained, I don’t need anything else. I’m skint and stuff is falling apart, but I’m doing the best I can. All that stuff that you have to have and all the things you have to do – you just don’t. Change your expectation, when people try to pass their stress on to you, don’t allow it, you can only do as much as you can do, anything else is down to their bad planning or just it’s a shame it ain’t going to happen. As my MoD mentor used to say to me when a customer said we need this now – you should have come in yesterday. Life is too short for stress, if you don’t accept it, it doesn’t exist.

I was going to say my 2 cents, but I can’t afford to give them away, and Ruvio, if you can afford a bottle of wine every night I want my free stuff back :)

Big respect to you for that mate - If we ever meet I'm definately buying you a pint!

Dom.
 

AJB

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Big respect to you for that mate - If we ever meet I'm definately buying you a pint!

Dom.

Hey, no respect required mate, I’ve had bad times, but there’s been good too, now I’m happy, if skint, so I regard myself as a lucky man, but thank you.

However, I’ll take you up on that pint, as long as I can buy you one back – at the Glasfryn? That’s the weird thing is, the last job I hated was in Mold!
 

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