is there any one taking bows etc, not sure if i read there will be some archery fun on the meet??????????
Loch Achray meet 13th -16th October, 2006
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Eric_Methven
Bushcrafter (boy, I've got a lot to say!)
John Dixon said:
Yes John, there will be archery fun. There may also be another archery competition. I might even supply the prize this time seeing as i won it last time. Bring your bows and arrows. Fun to be had by all.
Eric
Eric_Methven said:
eric.. i am looking fopr a long bow could you point tme in the right direction.????
cheers
Eric_Methven
Bushcrafter (boy, I've got a lot to say!)
John Dixon said:
Not right at this moment mate, unless someone else on here has one. I'll be making some more next year, but I don't have any more staves right now. I'll be cutting some nice straight coppiced ash once the sap is down (between November and January) and I'll source staves from those ready for next season. Until then I won't be making any longbows.
I might be making a couple of american oak flat bows with either a linen or sinew backing, but they will be for my own use. Sorry I can't help more. If you need the longbow for Loch Achray, don't worry, there'll be plenty there and most folks will happily lend you a bow to play with.
Eric
Eric_Methven
Bushcrafter (boy, I've got a lot to say!)
Talking about bows, arrows and archery competitions, does anyone fancy a proper bushcraft skills competition? It'll be open to all comers and could consist of various bushcraft skills with points awarded. The one with the highest score wins. We could have senior skills for the big folk and a junior competition for the kids.
The whole thing could be run on the Saturday when most people will be there. It could start with fire lighting by friction. A timed event to boil a pint of water. Bow drill earns double points, hand drill earns tripple points and firesteel earns normal points. Points are converted from the time taken from start to rolling boil.
Canoe orienteering on Loch Achray. This could be a number of orienteering type markers (a code letter printed on an encapsulated card) distributed around the loch shoreline. Contestants have to paddle on given compass bearings from one clue to the next and find the letter. The points are awarded based on time taken and accuracy of answers.
Both of the above could be an optional event (choose one or the other) allowing SOTP members a chance to score well if their firelighting skills are found wanting.
Archery Each competetor gets five arrows and has to shoot at a target at a given distance. Total score is converted to points.
On the firelighting competition, scoring would be that everyone starts with thirty points and loses a point for every minute taken. If the water hasn't boiled within thirty minutes, that person gets no score and moves on to the next event.
Canoeing scores ten points for accuracy in finding the answers on the cards, losing one point for each wrong or missing answer. They have fifty points to start with for the timing part and lose one point for each minute taken on the water. That way the fastest out and back loses the least points and scores the highest. Also there must be at least three markers found to get a score.
Scoring for the archery will be five points for a gold (bull), three for an inner and one for an outer.
Add all the scores up and the highest is our winner.
If anyone has suggestions for other activities along these lines please post them below. I will put up a waxed leather flask as a prize (valued at £40).
As I won't be competing myself, I'd be happy to help organise the event. Anyone else not feeling competitive might like to volunteer to score keep etc.
The kids competition would be similar to the adults but on a smaller scale. We'll need rescue boats out for the kids event.
Well, what do you all think? Good idea or not? It's your meet, so it's your choice. It will help to hone bushcraft skills though.
Eric
The whole thing could be run on the Saturday when most people will be there. It could start with fire lighting by friction. A timed event to boil a pint of water. Bow drill earns double points, hand drill earns tripple points and firesteel earns normal points. Points are converted from the time taken from start to rolling boil.
Canoe orienteering on Loch Achray. This could be a number of orienteering type markers (a code letter printed on an encapsulated card) distributed around the loch shoreline. Contestants have to paddle on given compass bearings from one clue to the next and find the letter. The points are awarded based on time taken and accuracy of answers.
Both of the above could be an optional event (choose one or the other) allowing SOTP members a chance to score well if their firelighting skills are found wanting.
Archery Each competetor gets five arrows and has to shoot at a target at a given distance. Total score is converted to points.
On the firelighting competition, scoring would be that everyone starts with thirty points and loses a point for every minute taken. If the water hasn't boiled within thirty minutes, that person gets no score and moves on to the next event.
Canoeing scores ten points for accuracy in finding the answers on the cards, losing one point for each wrong or missing answer. They have fifty points to start with for the timing part and lose one point for each minute taken on the water. That way the fastest out and back loses the least points and scores the highest. Also there must be at least three markers found to get a score.
Scoring for the archery will be five points for a gold (bull), three for an inner and one for an outer.
Add all the scores up and the highest is our winner.
If anyone has suggestions for other activities along these lines please post them below. I will put up a waxed leather flask as a prize (valued at £40).
As I won't be competing myself, I'd be happy to help organise the event. Anyone else not feeling competitive might like to volunteer to score keep etc.
The kids competition would be similar to the adults but on a smaller scale. We'll need rescue boats out for the kids event.
Well, what do you all think? Good idea or not? It's your meet, so it's your choice. It will help to hone bushcraft skills though.
Eric
Eric_Methven
Bushcrafter (boy, I've got a lot to say!)
JohnC said:
Good suggestion, but how would you score it? It would be subjective and could lead to arguments. Timed skills are easier to manage and we're there to have fun after all. I don't fancy mediating between two people who think their grass rope is the best, or have to decide which of the dozens of pot hook types is better than another.
Eric
The competition idea sounds good to me.
How about it being a team event e.g. Bushcrafters + Canoeists.
To get people together put names in hats one for bushcraft skills and one for Canoe skills and draw out random teams.
How about it being a team event e.g. Bushcrafters + Canoeists.
To get people together put names in hats one for bushcraft skills and one for Canoe skills and draw out random teams.
MagiKelly said:
John,
I am hoping to arrive on the Saturday morning by car - will I be able to access the site without anyone having to let me in?
could you post up access arrangements for the late arrivals/first timers.
Cheers
JFW
MagiKelly
Making memories since '67
JFW said:
Access should be open for the duration it is just a case of coming in the exit of the three forest drive. I do not have a map that I can post but am sure someone will have (looks around for Groovski
)
From the south:
M73>A80(M80)>M9 Junction 10
....then A84 to just past Callander
...then A821 which will be signposted Aberfoyle.
Along the side of Loch Venacher, round Loch Achray then keep your eyes peeled for the out gate of the forest drive.
From Glasgow or thereabouts:
A81 to Aberfoyle then up over Dukes Pass.
Forest Drive is anti-clockwise, we're using the exit and driving in the wrong way to the youth campsite.
Handy, there's still a map on my server from last year. Should print to scale at A4.
http://uploads.gp500store.co.uk/Grooveski/Pit_Surface/Achray_1-25000.pdf
(my server, that's a laugh )
I'll do the usual mapwise for the canoes.
M73>A80(M80)>M9 Junction 10
....then A84 to just past Callander
...then A821 which will be signposted Aberfoyle.
Along the side of Loch Venacher, round Loch Achray then keep your eyes peeled for the out gate of the forest drive.
From Glasgow or thereabouts:
A81 to Aberfoyle then up over Dukes Pass.
Forest Drive is anti-clockwise, we're using the exit and driving in the wrong way to the youth campsite.
Handy, there's still a map on my server from last year. Should print to scale at A4.
http://uploads.gp500store.co.uk/Grooveski/Pit_Surface/Achray_1-25000.pdf
(my server, that's a laugh
)I'll do the usual mapwise for the canoes.
Thanks for clearing that up for me, Im sure I'll still get lost.
I'm away on holiday next week so am currently packing my gear so that it's all ready to go. Looking forward to meeting old friends and new.
Cheers
JFW
I'm away on holiday next week so am currently packing my gear so that it's all ready to go. Looking forward to meeting old friends and new.
Cheers
JFW
Eric_Methven
Bushcrafter (boy, I've got a lot to say!)
having tried it at the last meet, i can say without fear of contradiction, i can't play the bodrahn.
i'll take my feadog though.
it's going to be fun.
i'll take my feadog though.
it's going to be fun.
MagiKelly
Making memories since '67
Eric,
I'll see if I can fit it in - which reminds me I promissed you a training cd, I'll try and remember to pack it.
Cheers
JFW
I'll see if I can fit it in - which reminds me I promissed you a training cd, I'll try and remember to pack it.
Cheers
JFW
I must admit, i'd love to be able to play a bodrahn, maybe i'll get a chance to give it a go.
Dave
Dave
It's a lot harder than it looks - or at least, I found it so.
I'll be bringing a whistle, and if I feel really enthusiastic and there's space in the car, I might manage to squeeze my 12-string in as well.
I'd be up for a little light-hearted archery competition, but I'm not too sure about getting competitive with fire and canoes...
I'll be bringing a whistle, and if I feel really enthusiastic and there's space in the car, I might manage to squeeze my 12-string in as well.
I'd be up for a little light-hearted archery competition, but I'm not too sure about getting competitive with fire and canoes...
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