leuku's and bushcraft knives, a question of versatility

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Siberianfury

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Jan 1, 1970
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mendip hills, somerset
Ive been doing a fair bit of shelter building recently, going out into the woods equiped with some cheap groundsheets, a sleeping bag, billy can, thermarest and two knives, mainly my BG Bushcrafter and the 8.3" Leuku i made for myself.

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The tasks i encountered where the same as i have always encountered when spending more than an afternoon in the woods, Clearing brush, chopping poles and withy's, collecting firewood, cutting it into managable sizes, tent pegs, ect.
anyway, for these tasks i found that i was only using one knife, my Leuku, whilst the smaller bushcraft knife would have been capable of cutting these trees and withys down with a batton and some elbow grease, the leuku which weighs little more was devouring every task i threw at it effortlessly, it would slice through poles and withys like they wernt there, batton firewood, clear brush with ease and just with a slight flick and chopping action. later on i tried featersticking, again the task was accomplished with ease, as was carving and cutting the notches for a tent peg.

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this made me think, why do most bushcrafters say that a 4" blade is all you need?
i guess when coupled with an axe then its pretty good, but an axe is heavy and it cant clear vegetation or cut light withys as energy efficently as a leuku.
i guess most bushcrafters, when they go out, they take their hammock and tarp or tent, carrying this means they can do without gathering materials from the forest, hence the only thing the knife may be used for is, splitting wood, cutting food, string ect and carving these are tasks a 4" bushcraft knife excell at.

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However, if you look across the world at most indigenous peoples and see what they are using in a forest environment, they are using large bladed knives. the Seax, Parang, Machete and the leuku, and watching them use the tools shows how skilled they are, their knife is the only thing they will ever need.

As some of you may know i am not at all against mid size fixed blade knives, im rather an advocate to be honest.
However after using larger blades such as the leuku, im beggining to question why they have such as fixed roll as the main tool in bushcraft when the larger blade gets so much more use?

anyway, i would be keen to know everyone elses veiws on this :)
 
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As I see it, it's a case of "the correct tool for the job"
The correct tool will depend on local conditions and expected use.
In the rainforest, a machete/parang style blade is more useful as you are doing more clearing work, whereas in the northern boreal forest, an axe is better for wood processing, as it will burn fewer calories for the amount of wood cut.
If you are carrying a small saw, it changes things further.
Personally, I'd rather have a smaller knife and a folding saw.
 
From what iv'e seen the larger blade is often accompanied by a smaller working knife for use with food prep, carving and jobs where a quick cut is needed rather than a chop, so i suppose the ease of carry and quickness of use of this smaller blade has swayed more to using a small or mid size blade rather than a bigger chopper. I really like using my leku find it quick and surprisingly powerful but unwieldy for carving or fine work.
 
Interesting thoughts Josh. I have wondered much the same for a few years now.

I think as you say few people regularly build shelters or harvest materials on more than a small scale. Descretion is another possibility as in the whole 'big scary knife' worry when out & about. A lot of people would be happier using a saw for larger cutting tasks etc.

There is also the fame factor witch I think makes popular certain approaches - if well known people recommend something on telly many assume it to be THE best thing for the job when often there are several equally capable alternatives.

A large light blade can become a real workhorse around camp - Shelter, firewood, bark scraping/stripping, path clearing, skinning, butchering & serving game (not just a pack of sausages), carving...etc etc.

As you say mine gets at least as much use as a small puukko often more.

As somebody said elsewhere about the Leuku - it's the original survival knife. A little bold as a blanket statement but large knives have stood the test of time over thousands of years & played their part in hauling us through thinner times, they are very worthy tools.


Glad you are enjoying using your Leuku josh
 
I'd say two cuts to fell at 2" diameter sapling uses less calories than cutting it with a folding saw. Unless you have one of those huge Silky's perhaps.

Done well a cut rather than sawn tree/sapling will be more resistant to water ingress & rotting too - the surface is smooth & not chewed up by the saw.
 
I'd say two cuts to fell at 2" diameter sapling uses less calories than cutting it with a folding saw. Unless you have one of those huge Silky's perhaps.

Done well a cut rather than sawn tree/sapling will be more resistant to water ingress & rotting too - the surface is smooth & not chewed up by the saw.

id agree its more energy efficent than a saw, alot more fun too
 
My leuku hadly gets any use now I have a good Billhook.
Paired with a 4" bladed knife the Billhook is a great tool and covers most jobs admirable and tends to slip under the "big knife= violence" idiot radar....
The Billhook could be seen as the British indeginous "big knife" equating to the jungle machete/parang...
 
This is good timing. I've just got back in from trying this myself. Lat week i went out and only used my axe(posted photo's)this time i used just my camp knife, which is a one off made by chevin over on BB.

While not as large as the one you use (6")it does all the jobs you say, and has done so for nearly 3yrs now, but taking a bit of a back seat since i have had my cegga axe. But it was good to use it properly again.

Rob
 
My leuku hadly gets any use now I have a good Billhook.
Paired with a 4" bladed knife the Billhook is a great tool and covers most jobs admirable and tends to slip under the "big knife= violence" idiot radar....
The Billhook could be seen as the British indeginous "big knife" equating to the jungle machete/parang...

Whole heartedly agree there, I am itching to handle a bill hook, one, to see how they handle and if I like it, and two, for the heritage links. beautiful tools indeed.
 
The Billhook could be seen as the British indeginous "big knife" equating to the jungle machete/parang...

Indeed it could - or is in my eyes.

Billhooks are great tools, personally I find the Leuku much more versatile around camp (tip, belly, finer control when choked up etc.) but they won't out chop a good hook.
 
ive never been to great a fan of billhooks, probaby because mine is a giant 9mm thick meat smasher type thing, its heavy and is good at digging and splittng firewood, apart from that clearing brush and cutting poles is a fair bit of effort.
 
well,i use a small knife dayly,fixed blade or folder,with axe or/and hatchet,and it's enough for my big needs. (i spend everyday out in the woods for work). sometimes i need to clear some bush and i use a big blade,known as a billhook.
i sometimes use a big knife,but i never managed to do something with leuku!
 
The current trend for a too-thick Scandi ground 4" blade is, I feel, a pretty awful compromise. It is neither fish nor foul and unless you want to use it for regular splitting with a baton I don't feel that it does anything particularly well.

I consider working knives as slicing tools, as far as I am concerned, with the bigger brothers used for chopping and brush clearance etc.

Give me a thin, sharp slicing knife any day and I'm happy for the majority of the tasks that I need a knife for - think along the lines of a proper Puukko as an example.

If I want to do heavier work then something like a Leuku is OK or, if necessary, heading all the way up to a machete or bill hook for the bigger jobs.

Bottom line - I can achieve more and get it done faster with a small, thin and sharp knife, most of the time. If I want to chop and split that would be when a hatchet, mid-size axe or larger knife/machete/billhook comes into play.

Bushcraft, being an activity of choice, allows you the luxury to plan pick and choose what to take so all of us get to cart around whatever we like, available disposable income permitting...
 
Hi folks,
I have to agree that the Leuku is a great tool for many areas. Since a few weeks I'm using my Leuku which I've knocked together from an 8" Lauri blade and some wood, leather and cork I had lying around. It is a great chopper, especially for its surprisingly light weight (ca. 270 g). And for making kindling for the wood stove it has replaced my hatchett (I find batonning with it safer for this than using the small axe). It makes decent feathersticks, but tbh my smaller scandiground knives are better for it.

Cheers
Jörg

P.S. @Josh: Is this a Fiskars hatchett in the first picture? Did it get any use or only the Leuku?
 
I got the impression that it was a UK Bushcrafter thing to use small 4" knives, when people in the rest of the world seem to go for something bigger, with a smaller secondary blade as a 'Camp Knife'. I hear people in the states talking about a small 6" blade knife on some of the sites I visit, where that would be considered quite big bu many over here. Personally I think a lot of it is down to a fear of explaining away a knife to the police, where an 8" Leuku or combat knife is much more likely to get you in trouble than a small discreat 4" blade in a long sheath with only the last inch of the handle showing. I may well be wrong but that's my take on it.

It's also probably a fashion thing & it looks like Leuku's are going to be the next 'must have' item....
 

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