if it's all the same I wont bother, i have never tried to educate wood, and no intention to try.
Thank you for your reply, as always it is greatly appreciated.
if it's all the same I wont bother, i have never tried to educate wood, and no intention to try.
Apparently one of the glue his hands to a train types was a pensioner who'd put into the system all his life.
Apparently there's academics, which in case you hadn't realised typically earn a decent salary.
Apparently there's educated and employed people involved.
Wow! How can they let those claim benefits as well? Oh wait! They probably don't get any benefits and are self funding through paid employment. In guess environmental protesting takes all sorts.
Still don't let stereotypes and ill- founded prejudices stop a good rant.
PS how many paramedics failed to get to work? How many failed to get to emergencies? Can anyone point me towards all those cases?
Any other similar phrases needing correction?
that is entirely your opinion. My one is that if someone is doing something that does not directly involve my daily or future wellbeing, then I leave it alone. If it does affect me, then I deal with it. I do not know any of these people protesting, so I can offer no opinions on there background, heritage or parentage. As what is becoming patently obvious with this type of post, it is instigated with politicized undertones, which out of respect for the forum I shall not engage in any further. If you wish further communication with me, in a sensible and convivial manner, then do so. Otherwise don't bother.
Apparently one of the glue his hands to a train types was a pensioner who'd put into the system all his life.
Apparently there's academics, which in case you hadn't realised typically earn a decent salary.
Apparently there's educated and employed people involved.
Wow! How can they let those claim benefits as well? Oh wait! They probably don't get any benefits and are self funding through paid employment. In guess environmental protesting takes all sorts.
Still don't let stereotypes and ill- founded prejudices stop a good rant.
PS how many paramedics failed to get to work? How many failed to get to emergencies? Can anyone point me towards all those cases?
You perhaps missed my point and I apologize for not being more clear. Whether or not I am for or against what is going on, I, and others are sick of the moronic political nausea that is polluting otherwise good natured forums. Starting off a thread with, "Absolutely not taking any side now" and then slowly steering it into the gutter with comments about benefits scroungers, and families that live in council estates is typical of what is degenerating many previously well mannered forums around the net. It is always one, or perhaps two that start the ball rolling. Instead of rattling the keyboards, where none of the targeted audience are likely to be anyway, the authors of such nonsense should get out into the environment they seem to despise, and put forward their critique. The response will be totally different, and well they know this.It’s not affecting you, but it’s affecting others who wanted to see their dying loved ones, emergency services vehicles trying to do their jobs and save lives, and not to mention the countless amount of people trying to get about their day and going to their jobs to pay their mortgages or rent and feed their families.
Of course it’s politicised the whole damn thing is!
You perhaps missed my point and I apologize for not being more clear. Whether or not I am for or against what is going on, I, and others are sick of the moronic political nausea that is polluting otherwise good natured forums. Starting off a thread with, "Absolutely not taking any side now" and then slowly steering it into the gutter with comments about benefits scroungers, and families that live in council estates is typical of what is degenerating many previously well mannered forums around the net. It is always one, or perhaps two that start the ball rolling. Instead of rattling the keyboards, where none of the targeted audience are likely to be anyway, the authors of such nonsense should get out into the environment they seem to despise, and put forward their critique. The response will be totally different, and well they know this.
Thank you.I see your point. I disagree but I see it.
Sorry cross post. Thank you for the links.
Let's examine them shall we?
First link was a carefully crafted piece to avoid saying anything actionable against them in a court. The message was clearly heard by its target reader. ER protests stop emergency services getting through, people will die. Never actually said that. What it did say was could delay emergency services. Then quoted ER organisers saying they'd move to let emergency services through. So despite a lot if coulds there were no dids in there. Plenty of talking head quotes from angry voices. No idea of frequency of such voices. Could there have been more supportive? Biased vox pops are irrelevant. Evidence is important though.
Second link, guy on crutches gets angry? Really? You can't protest because some guy has crutches. Freedom of speech and protest is more important. There's loads of slightly more supportive bits to that piece of reporting. Police larking around with protesters, skateboarding coppers, etc. Seems the sun isn't as decided on good vs bad opinion like you are.
Third link about cancer patient. Well, my dad had a train cancelled on him when he had a cancer appointment once. Not good but he lived with it. He had a back up. Not ideal but sorted. Tue cancer patient made the appointment or the article would have mentioned missed appointment.
Sorry if that all sounds harsh. I don't support ER actions but I find the attempt by certain media outlets to demonize legitimate and probably needed protests worse. If there were signs of movement on climate change protest would not be needed.
One more point. For every example given there's probably hundreds just getting on with it. Whilst not dismissing their complaint outright it does seem that these cases are more political than real problems. The one example I know about that's really serious was the guy late to see his dad die. That is still the only serious case so I don't see a good reason to prevent protests based on this.
One thing I noticed about this debate both here and in the press is the emotive language used. Sometimes very subtle but once emotions are aroused these subtlties are ignored.
Example... people are fed up... when actually what is meant and proper unbiased reporting would say is.. some people are fed up.
Also notice that it's mostly men getting all macho about things.
It's the done thing nowadays apparently to trash those who do not agree with your world view by picking out ridiculous arguments like one was seen getting a macdonalds burger! Shock horror! Are they not all bleeding heart vegans? How hypercritical of them. Oh my goodness they are all using nylon tents / wearing plastic macs in the rain/have mobile phones etc etc.
I draw to your attention the fact that the original post was made by someone who does not live in the UK but in a Caribbean tax haven but seems to get a kick out of stiring things up with derisive and insidious comments even on other posts that have nothing whatsoever to do with this subject.