Jacket or Smock?
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Aha!
So, we use the English word in Germany simply wrong?
Anorak is german Schlupfjacke, middle agest german Wams.
Jacket ist Jacke. Takki sounds strange!
;0)
Our surplus shops in Germany try to sell us (since may be 10 years) jackets called "smock" in the stile of the foto in the earlier comment in that dry weather multi terrain pattern.
Is that thing a britisch or american uniform???
I think, the best would be, if we cancel that all, and use in future exclusively and world wide the finish words and orthographie:
Anorakki and Takki
Finish has the clearest orthography in the world and sounds nice.
Let's stop this babylonic desaster.
We all should start to speak finish!
So, we use the English word in Germany simply wrong?
Anorak is german Schlupfjacke, middle agest german Wams.
Jacket ist Jacke. Takki sounds strange!
;0)
Our surplus shops in Germany try to sell us (since may be 10 years) jackets called "smock" in the stile of the foto in the earlier comment in that dry weather multi terrain pattern.
Is that thing a britisch or american uniform???
I think, the best would be, if we cancel that all, and use in future exclusively and world wide the finish words and orthographie:
Anorakki and Takki
Finish has the clearest orthography in the world and sounds nice.
Let's stop this babylonic desaster.
We all should start to speak finish!
It’s a bit confusing really. My Fjallraven Anorak no8 is what I’d call a smock in that it’s pulled over the head and doesn’t have a zipped front.
https://www.fjallraven.co.uk/shop/fjallraven-anorak-no-8-m-F83242/
https://www.fjallraven.co.uk/shop/fjallraven-anorak-no-8-m-F83242/
for me
jacket = full zippered water / weather proof.
coat = full zippered may not be water / weather proof.
smock = half zippered waterproof may/ may not have pockets.
anorak = thin fully weather proof jacket, a little like oil skins but not as heavy duty.
jacket = full zippered water / weather proof.
coat = full zippered may not be water / weather proof.
smock = half zippered waterproof may/ may not have pockets.
anorak = thin fully weather proof jacket, a little like oil skins but not as heavy duty.
So Denison smock must be renamed henceforth to Denison jacket?
Well, the rest of you can do as you please but I will continue to call the military fully zippered garment with big pockets a smock.
And the garment with half zipper that has to be put on over the head I will continue calling an anorak.
Well, the rest of you can do as you please but I will continue to call the military fully zippered garment with big pockets a smock.
And the garment with half zipper that has to be put on over the head I will continue calling an anorak.
Sorry, you can use the words how you want to, but the words have nothing to do with the fabric!
Jacket is short
coat is long
Anorak is a jacket without door for use in the Kajak and so on.
Or am I wrong?
And well, we have seen the Shepard's Smock.
So it is a large half long coat, original without door, now a days a Parka without hood.
Jacket is short
coat is long
Anorak is a jacket without door for use in the Kajak and so on.
Or am I wrong?
And well, we have seen the Shepard's Smock.
So it is a large half long coat, original without door, now a days a Parka without hood.
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Some of us can be called anoraks!
E. Wursts definition is what I would do too.
Smock? Well, it can be a ladies dress too.
E. Wursts definition is what I would do too.
Smock? Well, it can be a ladies dress too.
I have a faint memory of that my dad's gen and older used the anorak as an outer layer when cross country skiing.
Protects against snow ingress into the woolen sweater, and also wind proof.
I think he still used it in the mid 1960's when we skied.
A relic of that must have been the S. army snow over clothes.
Protects against snow ingress into the woolen sweater, and also wind proof.
I think he still used it in the mid 1960's when we skied.
A relic of that must have been the S. army snow over clothes.
It's about what group you belong to. Military have always had their own terminology. Outdoors type is quite simple with smock for half zip outer layer or jacket for full zip outer layer. Old gits use cagoule or anorak for outer layer garment but probably don't distinguish between full or half zip openings.
Then there's foreigners. Whilst we English might commandeer their language for garment names they can still use those names for whatever they want but it does not mean we have to.
However that doesn't answer the OP's pressing question. What is the advantage of a half zip outer garment for the upper body over a full zip version for the use of Bushcraft? Is it fashion, tastes, preference or a genuine technical / practical reason that overrides the ease of removal / putting on of full zip garment?
Then there's foreigners. Whilst we English might commandeer their language for garment names they can still use those names for whatever they want but it does not mean we have to.
However that doesn't answer the OP's pressing question. What is the advantage of a half zip outer garment for the upper body over a full zip version for the use of Bushcraft? Is it fashion, tastes, preference or a genuine technical / practical reason that overrides the ease of removal / putting on of full zip garment?
the difference between a smock and a jacket is one of construction - if it has a full length opening at the front its not a smock, if it goes over your head its a smock.
either design can have any function you like, be made out of any material you like, and be any colour you like.
of course, being the custodians of the English language we Brits get to change the rules - while the above generally holds, there's a derivation: the military windproof jacket is also called a 'smock'. thats because of its lineage, the original windproof smock was a, err... smock, the zip went down to the bottom of the sternum, but this was replaced in the early 60's by a jacket with the four front pockets, but because its function was the same as the windproof smock, it was just called the same thing - the windproof smock. 60 years later, the windproof smock is still a jacket, but its called a smock.
hope that clears it up for you....
either design can have any function you like, be made out of any material you like, and be any colour you like.
of course, being the custodians of the English language we Brits get to change the rules - while the above generally holds, there's a derivation: the military windproof jacket is also called a 'smock'. thats because of its lineage, the original windproof smock was a, err... smock, the zip went down to the bottom of the sternum, but this was replaced in the early 60's by a jacket with the four front pockets, but because its function was the same as the windproof smock, it was just called the same thing - the windproof smock. 60 years later, the windproof smock is still a jacket, but its called a smock.
hope that clears it up for you....
I think his question got answered?
Full zip:
+ : easy on/off specially when you want speed
easy to regulate heat/cold
protected interior pockets
- : if zip breaks - problem, specially winter time or in rain
Parka / top part zip or buttons:
+ : large easily accessible pocket in front
- : can not be removed quickly and easily
Buttoned jacket / parka ?
Do they still exist?
If you lose a button it is not the whole world.
Not as good wind protection as a zip.
Full zip:
+ : easy on/off specially when you want speed
easy to regulate heat/cold
protected interior pockets
- : if zip breaks - problem, specially winter time or in rain
Parka / top part zip or buttons:
+ : large easily accessible pocket in front
- : can not be removed quickly and easily
Buttoned jacket / parka ?
Do they still exist?
If you lose a button it is not the whole world.
Not as good wind protection as a zip.
Military for you. Their own lingo loosely based on civilian English. Got to make it simple for the typical squaddie!
I am smockered by your verbal ambiance!
English is a Germanic language, so we could expect a bit order and precision......
Do not forget the American cousins, they certainly do what changes they want!
Comprende, dude?
In the Swedish military we do have very specific names too. Has to be used, to avoid confusion.
English is a Germanic language, so we could expect a bit order and precision......
Do not forget the American cousins, they certainly do what changes they want!
Comprende, dude?
In the Swedish military we do have very specific names too. Has to be used, to avoid confusion.
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