All valid points. Technology has never been a strong point for me, hence my evident knowledge gap, and why a GPS is never my primary tool for what I do.Every time I got lost I blamed either my navigation tool or my skill level? Which one of those options you honestly do is likely to indicate whether the tool is a GPS or compass. From what I read in these discussions is that getting lost with map and compass it's operator error. Getting lost with GPS it's the navigation tool that's at fault.
Let's be honest here, most people have you read up or get taught how to use a map and compass. How many have actually been taught to use a GPS properly? I bet it's more likely that someone opens a GPS box up, has a play then expects to be able to use it. Rarely have I met anyone with that view about map and compass.
This then could explain why people take against GPS units. Even to think the unit has a compass when it's just calculating from GPS location changes and need you to move noticeably to work. Sorry but that is a little like having a new compass and not realising the housing on the base plate turns. Lack of learning about the tool to hand. I bet if you never learnt to use a compass you'd think they were useless too.
With every tool you decide to try out, you really need to learn how to use them. It's basic 101 tool use stuff.
When I say technology, I mean a device that had electronic circuits, uses battery power and, in the case of GPS, relies upon satellites. Same reasons I don't carry Ipods, electronic books into the wild places, subscribe to online music providers etc. and probably explains why my laptop and scanner are now 11 years old.Compass is technology too. It's just one that you feel comfortable using. Nothing wrong with that at all.
It's when people claim something doesn't work because it doesn't suit them that I think is a little wrong. It's patently evident GPS does work because it's so widely used without difficulty. I believe even supertankers are navigated through what for them are tricky channels using GPS. It's basically the same technology being used in handheld devices!!!
When I hear GPS or map and compass doesn't work, I've got to ask if the person saying it has actually learnt to use them. It's often ignorance that causes such strong views one way or the other. I suspect those who know how to get the best out of both kit aren't so loud either way
Fair enough.I think people see where something fails and writes it off but the truth is all kit has limitations. Even a compass has issues in certain geological areas or when stored incorrectly or when misused or when it fails due to say a bubble developing or demagnetisation.
Back when I researched into getting my first GPS unit there was a lot of comments such as no good in trees or you'd get no signal near steep valleys, etc. So I got the one with the best technology for an aerial, quad helix in the GPS60 model. I think in the years of use I maybe had a handful of cases where I got no signal. But then I'm not in jungle like possibly most users. I don't see why you'd use an outdoors GPS unit in cities anyway. However I've yet to have the car's GPS fail in the city.
However, the idea you'd use a GPS when it's unable to lock onto a signal is a bit daft. If you're in an area GPS units are known to fail you use something else. Just like certain uk hills with compass. Operator error to do otherwise.
Look, it's a tool that works. If it doesn't work for you it's either you do not know how to use it or you're in an area with the conditions that hinder its connection to satellite network. There's a third option I suppose where you don't want it to work. I personally do not see RV as the latter or the former option. I have no idea what the terrain is where he goes out is but it sounds like it's got the conditions which GPS struggles in. Solution is don't use one there.
In full disclosure here I stopped using one decades ago because where I go out I simply don't need one. I also don't use a compass and my map often stays at home. Most of my trips I either know the area well enough to navigate out of or I use a phone GPS and view ranger as a double check on my sense of direction. (sic). Unfortunately family duties have stopped me going out into the real clag where navigation devices like map, compass and GPS are needed.
I think what I do in new areas is called stravaigning
I am not a communications engineer and only know the basics about antennas but it might be useful to ask someone in the know if an external antenna would help. As the water that interferes is fairly high in the jungle even an external antenna might not help that much but if signal_to_noise it is really close it might. The very high accuracy geodesy receivers seem all to have external antennas so maybe there is something to it.When my GPS does work under the canopy here
Yes, and if you are just following your nose on the GPS when your batteries die and you find your replacements are dead too, you are a bit screwed .. like the regular amount. At that point you won't necessarily know where you are and might have a bit of figuring out to do ... assuming that you are on the other side of the hill from the highway.They quit and are unrepairable.