Intellectual betterment.
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@ Maggot
Your line about changing subjects to avoid conflict thats really an interesting point.
Looking back through my posts, i initially tried to change the subject by bringing up questions of existence.
Then i tried to do it again with the big list of random, weird questions.
Didn't think about it at the time but maybe subconsciously i was doing it to try and stop the bickering.
Really interesting thing that.
Your line about changing subjects to avoid conflict thats really an interesting point.
Looking back through my posts, i initially tried to change the subject by bringing up questions of existence.
Then i tried to do it again with the big list of random, weird questions.
Didn't think about it at the time but maybe subconsciously i was doing it to try and stop the bickering.
Really interesting thing that.
I actually thought this was dead by now...
But since you ask, I actually took the trouble of "checking qualifications"...
There is a nice feature on this website, which enables a user to list all other postings from another member. Try for example listing your postings and maybe JonanthanD's postings and see for yourself which postings attain the highest signal_to_noise ratio.
And even then I find your verbal attacks on intellectual abilities disturbing. Attacking intellectual and cognitive abilities is directly attacking the very foundation of our civilised society.
Thanks for the offer, but it will not be necessary as I already own the book. It is currently sited next to some of the other lesser-used books among my personal 20000+ volume library.
//Kim Horsevad
Is it based around males being the same(same for females of course)? does it include mixed race British such as my self or just English naturals? does it differentiate between town\city\village?
Sorry, but I simply don't understand the question... Are you referring to the book or to my postings?
//Kim Horsevad
I have never listed any qualifications, nor has Jonathan, what have you been checking? Or have you simply been running the posts in this thread through the 'Horsevad Filter' to assess their intellectual attackment and perceived intelligence worth as pieces of prose? The two special individuals you taught on your Bushcraft course, the ones that were an honour to teach, and Jonathan with his top 1% IQ and his good lady with her genius at maths, they rank higher than me don't they, because you value their self-stated intellect and cognition? Those of us that have not made such grand claims are somehow guilty or rocking civilisation to it's core by being doubters.
Ah, but you may have initiated a hairline fracture in the egg that would void any more than 1 test per egg.
Well, im my opinion the book is a total waste. Waste of money to buy the book, and waste of time to read.
The author is an antropologist, but the general lack of progression and overall structure dosen't do much to convince her readers of any kind of reliability of her claims.
She touches all of the subjects you mention, but only in passing as the book is quite anecdotal in structure. She uses several pages to discuss the reasons for englishmen to discus the weather on any given occasion.
She conveys a picture of the english people as stunted in everyday life because of social conventions and conformist seeking attitudes, neither of which I agrees.
I find her described antropological methods weak and lacking real empirical structure
It is merely a book consisting of her opinion on a lot of different subjects related to social structure and social cohesion brought to the reader as a series of anecdotes.
//Kim Horsevad
PS: My copy of the book is the hardcover edition from 2004 (Hodder & Stoughton). The newer version might be different.
This has run its course.
All humans are created equal and should be treated as such, however some individuals are capable of contributing much more to society than others. These people should be valued.
I have stated my opinions.
You may choose to continue this sillyness, I will not.
//Kim Horsevad
@ Horsevad
This is an internet forum so how i perceive your comments may not be how you ment them to come out and my take on them probably differs from that of others.
To me, it appears the one now is you that is making big headed remarks, yes they are your opinions and i'll fight for your right to voice them but a little modesty and possibly realise that because you are more of an intellectual than others doesn't mean you should lord it over them.
Saying that people are against intellectuals is weird.
No one cares if you are super intelligent, if you are then good for you.
I myself have nearly no qualifications, does this make me a lesser human?
Does it make you better if you do?
This is an internet forum so how i perceive your comments may not be how you ment them to come out and my take on them probably differs from that of others.
To me, it appears the one now is you that is making big headed remarks, yes they are your opinions and i'll fight for your right to voice them but a little modesty and possibly realise that because you are more of an intellectual than others doesn't mean you should lord it over them.
Saying that people are against intellectuals is weird.
No one cares if you are super intelligent, if you are then good for you.
I myself have nearly no qualifications, does this make me a lesser human?
Does it make you better if you do?
Maybe if your English and reading it you see it in a different light recognising the social traits you display and others around you display. It looks to be a book aimed at a general readership ( hence it's a best seller) rather than a textbook anthropological study
I'll read it and let you know!!
Or...
'She has not only compiled a comprehensive list of English qualities, she has examined them in depth and wondered how we came to acquire them. Her book is a delightful read.' (The Sunday Times )
'I loved the section on mobile-phone etiquette. Shrewd . . . I liked the chapter on English humour. This is an entertaining, clever book. Do read it and then pass it on.' (Daily Telegraph )
'Amusing . . . entertaining.' (The Times )
'Watching the English . . . will make you laugh out loud ("Oh God. I do that!") and cringe simultaneously ("Oh God. I do that as well."). This is a hilarious book which just shows us for what we are . . . beautifully-observed. It is a wonderful read for both the English and those who look at us and wonder why we do what we do. Now they'll know.' (Birmingham Post )
'Fascinating reading.' (Oxford Times )
'An absolutely brilliant examination of English culture and how foreigners take as complete mystery the things we take for granted.' (Jennifer Saunders, The Times )
'If you like this kind of anthropology (and I do) there is a wealth of it to enjoy in this book. Her observations are acute...fortunately she doesn't write like an anthropologist but like an English woman -with amusement, not solemnity, able to laugh at herself as well as us.' (Daily Mail )
Oxford Times
Fascinating reading.'
Horsevad you wrote "She uses several pages to discuss the reasons for englishmen to discus the weather on any given occasion." Blimey, we discuss the weather all the time, it's a national obsession. I can almost guarantee that most of the conversations at the Moot will be in some way weather related, lighting a fire in the rain, lighting a fire in the wind, lighting a fire in the sun!
"She conveys a picture of the english people as stunted in everyday life because of social conventions and conformist seeking attitudes, neither of which I agrees." You must be about the only person on the planet who doesn't see the English as emotionally stunted and conformist, totally bound up in social structure. There have been 'class' conversations on here in the last week, that's all about social convention. You are dismissing the very bedrock upon which our society is perched! We quite enjoy it secretly.
Watch 'Dads Army' for a fantastic insight into how we view our social structures!
'She has not only compiled a comprehensive list of English qualities, she has examined them in depth and wondered how we came to acquire them. Her book is a delightful read.' (The Sunday Times )
'I loved the section on mobile-phone etiquette. Shrewd . . . I liked the chapter on English humour. This is an entertaining, clever book. Do read it and then pass it on.' (Daily Telegraph )
'Amusing . . . entertaining.' (The Times )
'Watching the English . . . will make you laugh out loud ("Oh God. I do that!") and cringe simultaneously ("Oh God. I do that as well."). This is a hilarious book which just shows us for what we are . . . beautifully-observed. It is a wonderful read for both the English and those who look at us and wonder why we do what we do. Now they'll know.' (Birmingham Post )
'Fascinating reading.' (Oxford Times )
'An absolutely brilliant examination of English culture and how foreigners take as complete mystery the things we take for granted.' (Jennifer Saunders, The Times )
'If you like this kind of anthropology (and I do) there is a wealth of it to enjoy in this book. Her observations are acute...fortunately she doesn't write like an anthropologist but like an English woman -with amusement, not solemnity, able to laugh at herself as well as us.' (Daily Mail )
Oxford Times
Fascinating reading.'
Horsevad you wrote "She uses several pages to discuss the reasons for englishmen to discus the weather on any given occasion." Blimey, we discuss the weather all the time, it's a national obsession. I can almost guarantee that most of the conversations at the Moot will be in some way weather related, lighting a fire in the rain, lighting a fire in the wind, lighting a fire in the sun!
"She conveys a picture of the english people as stunted in everyday life because of social conventions and conformist seeking attitudes, neither of which I agrees." You must be about the only person on the planet who doesn't see the English as emotionally stunted and conformist, totally bound up in social structure. There have been 'class' conversations on here in the last week, that's all about social convention. You are dismissing the very bedrock upon which our society is perched! We quite enjoy it secretly.
Watch 'Dads Army' for a fantastic insight into how we view our social structures!
Those individuals you refer to are those with high intelligence? yes? i'm assuming so in light of your earlier posts.
So people without such high intelligence are not in your world as valued?
How long before you start calling us undesirables.
Dads Army was fiction, and not fact, it was made up, as in not real. And TBH not funny, in the same way that 90% of comedy on Television is not funny.
Regarding the best selling nature of the aforementioned book 7.592 million People read the Sun (15.2% of the population) would that make the Sun more accurate reflection of the news than say the Telegraph with 1.6 Million readers or 0.48 million that read the FT. Popular and accurate do not mean the same thing.
Whether the weather is a popular past time and topic, I doubt it; it is a stereotype in the same way that talking when about bushcraft/wild camping you’ll be met with the “Oh like Bear Grylls does” 99% of the time.
Well. Bugger me, I though it was a documentary, sheeeessshhhh, you learn some stuff on here don't you?
