"I don't need one of these" (repeat until temptation passes)
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In my early years (16 - 23ish) I rode a Honda Amigo moped. You had the option of using the motor, pedalling or on steep hills - both!
It was not really up to life in Wales so I ended up getting real motorbikes (Superdream, Yam Classic) until the need for towing capability hit me along with the Open Canoe bug ... and I have had vans ever since.
That old Moped took me everywhere!
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=h...com%2Fsuper2%2Fhondapower%2Fhonda.htm;580;382
It was not really up to life in Wales so I ended up getting real motorbikes (Superdream, Yam Classic) until the need for towing capability hit me along with the Open Canoe bug ... and I have had vans ever since.
That old Moped took me everywhere!
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=h...com%2Fsuper2%2Fhondapower%2Fhonda.htm;580;382
Unfortunately I don't.have the ability to post photos (not with this piece of junk but better still, I'll bring it to the next Britton wood meet along with the purpose built trailer-barrow
And all you peeps can drool over it
greensurfingbear
Bushcrafter (boy, I've got a lot to say!)
Don't drool. If u want one build your own customized how u want it
Get yourself an old mountain bike preferably one with a solid frame a normal triangular front section where the rear suspension attaches to the back of the saddle stem. Then go on eBay and get a "bicyle engine kit" and fit it, the instructions are self explanatory. The rear carrier. You can then have built to you own spec along.with side carriers
Get yourself an old mountain bike preferably one with a solid frame a normal triangular front section where the rear suspension attaches to the back of the saddle stem. Then go on eBay and get a "bicyle engine kit" and fit it, the instructions are self explanatory. The rear carrier. You can then have built to you own spec along.with side carriers
Ohhh dammit why did I have to on eBay and have a look. Have you seen those prices?!!!! For a complete kit it's looking very attractive. Same the engine's not a 4 stroke though.
Thanks for that info. VERY tempted now.
Thanks for that info. VERY tempted now.
They are cheap. I'm surprised. That's cheap motoring, whichever way you look at it.
Would such a thing need an MOT?
I've been out of the loop on building motorbikes for a while now, and forget.
I seem to remember you can get a daylight only MOT, so it doesn't need lights. Brakes would be what concerns me. Would it pass a brake test?
The other thing is, would it have to be registered, to get number plates?
I guess it may depend on the CC, or top speed.
Not being pedantic or anything. I'm not beyond turning the engine off and pedalling to go past the cop shop......
Would such a thing need an MOT?
I've been out of the loop on building motorbikes for a while now, and forget.
I seem to remember you can get a daylight only MOT, so it doesn't need lights. Brakes would be what concerns me. Would it pass a brake test?
The other thing is, would it have to be registered, to get number plates?
I guess it may depend on the CC, or top speed.
Not being pedantic or anything. I'm not beyond turning the engine off and pedalling to go past the cop shop......
No idea about the law for one of those, maybe someone here is able to offer an opinion.
Since I live in France I bet it wouldn't too much of a problem riding that. The law here is a bit less strict in certain areas than the UK.
Since I live in France I bet it wouldn't too much of a problem riding that. The law here is a bit less strict in certain areas than the UK.
To be honest I don't know but seriously doubt they are road legal
I've never had a problem but then if I'm near a cop I kill the engine knock the kill switch and pedal like ell. So far I've only.been stopped once and I told cop I'd just bought it that day and the engine was a nail
But these mod's have been around a long time in the UK. I've seen old Raleigh racers with 2 stroke lawn mower engines on them there's a guy not far from me who has the same setup
BTW the engine kits are around 70 quid. Old mtb 40 quid equals 110 quid
I would imagine the Motoped designs probably cost upwards of 500
But I can't see any reason why one couldn't mount a 4 stroke engine
I've never had a problem but then if I'm near a cop I kill the engine knock the kill switch and pedal like ell. So far I've only.been stopped once and I told cop I'd just bought it that day and the engine was a nail
But these mod's have been around a long time in the UK. I've seen old Raleigh racers with 2 stroke lawn mower engines on them there's a guy not far from me who has the same setup
BTW the engine kits are around 70 quid. Old mtb 40 quid equals 110 quid
I would imagine the Motoped designs probably cost upwards of 500
But I can't see any reason why one couldn't mount a 4 stroke engine
Hmmm, I'd probably risk it too. Not that I actually need that sort of thing, and would never use it, but.
Looking round the web, if it's less than 50cc, and capable of no more than 30mph, then it's classed as a moped. It would need an SVA, which it has zero chance of getting. Without that, can't get MOT tax or insurance.
If its bigger engine and faster, it's into Motor bicycle territory. Same thing, still needs an SVA to register it.
Only difference is the licence category required to ride it.
Now if you happened to take the chain off while on the highway, and put it back on for offroad use, or Zombie apocalypse, I can't see there would be an issue. The fact that the engine is attached to the frame, and not in a box on the back, shouldn't make much difference, if it's not functional.
Dunno if I'd want to explain that to a magistrate though.
Obviously, taking the chain off would mean you can't pedal it............
Looking round the web, if it's less than 50cc, and capable of no more than 30mph, then it's classed as a moped. It would need an SVA, which it has zero chance of getting. Without that, can't get MOT tax or insurance.
If its bigger engine and faster, it's into Motor bicycle territory. Same thing, still needs an SVA to register it.
Only difference is the licence category required to ride it.
Now if you happened to take the chain off while on the highway, and put it back on for offroad use, or Zombie apocalypse, I can't see there would be an issue. The fact that the engine is attached to the frame, and not in a box on the back, shouldn't make much difference, if it's not functional.
Dunno if I'd want to explain that to a magistrate though.
Obviously, taking the chain off would mean you can't pedal it............
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you can get very discrete hub motors (electric) that work well, from road legal up to crazy power, with a decent mountain bike with disc brakes, should be ok.
Because the stupid regulations restrict electric bikes to a (powered) top speed of 15mph on the road.
You can get some bloody powerful motors on off road bikes, perfectly capable of 40mph. Doesn't sound like much to a petrolhead, I'm sure, but that's fast off-road and plenty fast enough to outrun a zombie or two.
Well I spoke to my scoobie last nite mountain bikes modified with engines by law cannot be used on the road or on public paths towpaths bridleways etc however on private land it don't.matter... (but I kinda figured that anyhow)
There are full electric mopeds on the market that can top 60mph but they cost a fortune (seen one or two about )
There are full electric mopeds on the market that can top 60mph but they cost a fortune (seen one or two about )
I wish! But the Cobb makes for a good incentive to get to your destination. I haven't fixed it for cooking on the move yet!