Is it me or was thunder and lcightning a thing of summers hyears ago. Thunder during the winter seems a new modern anomaly.Has been some rough weather, rain, hail and thunder and ligtning.
This place really shakes in thunder; can be alarming.
(But I am used to it now)
Is it really ? Trainers and no map in February to climb the countries highest peak. Obviously they had the sense to take their mobiles with them to keep abreast of Facebook. What is the difference between lack of skills, lack of common sense, and gross stupidity ? DIscuss.New Don't knock trainers I've enjoyed quite a few Lakeland winters wearing fell shoes. It's inexperience and lack of knowledge in the skills needed in those conditions that's the real issue.
I suspect that Joss Naylor spent most of his time in the mountains in trainers (or wellies) but agree completely with your general sentiment.Is it really ? Trainers and no map in February to climb the countries highest peak. Obviously they had the sense to take their mobiles with them to keep abreast of Facebook. What is the difference between lack of skills, lack of common sense, and gross stupidity ? DIscuss.
like not heading warnings not to go to the supermarket because of the weather. How do you account for idiots. 22 members of the Lochaber mountain rescue were out, and a helicopter because of "lack of knowledge" , these same 4 would probably play football on a motorway. Obviously wearing trainers.but the lack of knowledge and experience that's caused their predicament.
I think we are reaching more or less the same conclusion from different directions. I didn’t say that carrying full winter mountaineering kit and having the knowledge to use them should be a prerequisite for any trip into the UK mountains in the winter merely that it should be the default option.Didn't make the point you're arguing against I made the point that it's not the wearing of trainers that's the issue but the lack of knowledge and experience that's caused their predicament. If they'd more knowledge they'd have stayed away from that trip.
I was also making the point that a lot of experienced people do get out in winter without a lot of the trappings of kit that apparently you need with you. It's often more important to have the knowledge and experience than oodles of kit. Kit is a poor substitute to knowledge.
That’s what makes it fun here. All “features” are pretty much the same. The land is flat and the trees & brush in front of you look the same as the trees & brush behind you or to either side. Nothing but empty, flat woods for 5 to 50 miles in any direction if you’re in the middle of one of the State or national parks. Or alternatively swamp.......If you can navigate from memory in conditions of almost total sensory deprivation where all features have been obscured.......