handrill below zero - dedicated to Rich59

[phill_ue]

in respect to elder i trust you mean the main branches not the pithy shoots that sprout up? as i imagine they would just crumble. From all the elders i have seen they are never very straight apart from the aforementioned shoots..

what about a bamboo cane?

failing that i know where i can get some cats tails locally how long will they take to dry out ? a full season or jsut a few months in the greenhouse

Chuck 'em on the dash of your car in summer, takes a day or two! The elder is from the branches, but I was told to get second year growth from a shady spot. You'd be surprised how tough elder is when dry! Anyway, keep looking about and try whatever you find. You may happen upon a combination that is great.

 

[phill_ue]

been googling about is this the link you meant Phill
http://www.wildwoodsurvival.com/survival/fire/handdrill/storminquiry/index.html

Yes, page 2 shows the table.

 

[drewdunnrespect]

very well dunn stuart and i think i will be calling on richs skills to help me with bow drill cos i would like to get that cracked off this year at the moot