Got given a nifty tent
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Rik, the only way progress is made is by trying to make things better. Plus, what does a force 10 cost nowdays, £300? I could make a sturdier, more robust version exactly what I wanted for far less.
Tengu, are you building or buying replacement poles? If so, how?
I'd imagine the fact it has no guys means it is needing some or else is an incrediblely cheap tent not worth fixing. The large gap in between outer and the ground would also cause bad things with wind I think.
Tengu, are you building or buying replacement poles? If so, how?
I'd imagine the fact it has no guys means it is needing some or else is an incrediblely cheap tent not worth fixing. The large gap in between outer and the ground would also cause bad things with wind I think.
A 2 man pyramid ventile tent from Snowsled weighs 64lbs. Though they are 2.2m high, with 2.3 m sq. floor space.
edit: Sorry Jared. Did not read your post above. You got to it before me. Soz.
Ventile Tent - by Snowsled - 2 man....29 kilos
http://www.snowsled.com/polar/tents.htm
And yes it would be waterproof in wet weather.
Ventile Tent - by Snowsled - 2 man....29 kilos
http://www.snowsled.com/polar/tents.htm
And yes it would be waterproof in wet weather.
Are you sure about the measurements ? As we have just made 2 ventile coats and used over 5 meters of fabric.
Andywinkk has made a tipi out of some other fabric and I am sure he used a lot more than 4 meters. Drop him a PM he should be able to tell more.
Let me know how it works out tho as I am thinking of one myself.
Greg
What is valance? It did include all the other things you mentioned tho, although I never claimed it was a big tent. The inner would not be made of ventile. The design I'm thinking of is quite low to avoid the wind catching it.
I have just gone back and re read the thread and noticed that you are planning on making a force ten alikie and not a tipi so ignore me
Greg
In tent construction, why would ventile be better than canvas (or synthetics)? Sorry if I say so, but this ventile tent is just ridiculous. For an even more old school look why not go for wool? Or maybe furs?
Ventile offers silence and protection from sparks for clothing. None of that is interesting in a tent. And the reason you go for ventile instead of canvas is the water resistance, where synhetics are miles ahead. It's just gonna be heavy, and heavier when wet. Thin synthetics 'breathes' better than ventile anyway so why bother? And also synthetics are a lot more hard wearing.
Ventile offers silence and protection from sparks for clothing. None of that is interesting in a tent. And the reason you go for ventile instead of canvas is the water resistance, where synhetics are miles ahead. It's just gonna be heavy, and heavier when wet. Thin synthetics 'breathes' better than ventile anyway so why bother? And also synthetics are a lot more hard wearing.
If it is such a bad idea can anyone explain why Polar explorers use them? And have for years...and years.
I am unaware of many synthetic laminates or silicon impregrated plasticized materials that were more breathable than ventile? Maybe they do when wet I suppose. I agree that synthetic weave may have a higher abrasion resistance - but does the laminate and its bonding? Weight would seem to be the bigger issue would it not?
Which polar explorer use ventile tents? Anyone since the rise of synthetics? Last guy I heard of crossing antarctica used a bergans single wall breathable tent. Hilleberg and The North Face seem popular too, none carry any ventile models. Most real scientific explorers use motorised transport, I think we can agree on that, no need for any ventile in those.
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