Fire Roll technique

[jimfbte]

Has anyone reported on the Fire Roll technique of lighting fires?

I found two youtube demos on Bushcraft OZ. Here's the thread and the two videos.

http://bushcraftoz.com/forums/showthread.php?8977-The-Fire-Roll-technique

https://www.youtube.com/user/boggycreekbeast

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAgp_bGoJhs&app=desktop


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[Monikieman]

Not seen that before but I'm very intrerested

 

[Joe tahkahikew]

Very interesting but how relevant is it to making fire outside?

You need more bits of kit and you need to keep the jute dry - and the dust!! And a couple of planks of wood.

 

[forrestdweller]

ruediger nehberg describes this method in his books, using cotton wool and (cigarette)ashes-- I daresay other cotton wool-- like natural materials might work, too...... . and ashes can be collected from a campfire (you need fire to create charcloth, too)


maybe not as a regular method but would be good to know this as a backup........

 

[Grey Owl]

It is very like other fire starting methods, mostly parlor tricks and stunts. Once you know any primitive method, matches and lighters become pretty attractive. On the other hand, they build ones confidence and improve your skills regardless of the methods you choose in the end.

However, I have been experimenting with splitting boards out and using natural materials. So far I have had success with shredded inner bark of Balsam Poplar and wood ash. It works with natural materials, certainly more prep with the bark, but it works.

 

[Chekmate]

I've never seen that before. Something I'm gonna have to try this summer. Here are a couple of videos doing the fire roll outside.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXE...yGm_2IYk4&annotation_id=annotation_3642641521

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFETfsZ2Ksc

Keep Your Tinder Dry
Chekmate

 

[MegaWoodsWalker]

The David West channel on Youtube does a good deal of work with the fire roll. I never tried it myself.

 

[Chekmate]

I've seen the fire roll before but always with milled lumber and in a controlled environment. I thought neat trick, but no practical application. After watching Wayne's video doing it in the bush. Now I want to learn this skill.

Keep Your Tinder Dry
Chekmate

 

[Scottmathis]

I've seen the fire roll before but always with milled lumber and in a controlled environment. I thought neat trick, but no practical application. After watching Wayne's video doing it in the bush. Now I want to learn this skill.

Keep Your Tinder Dry
Chekmate

Not sure who's videos you've been watching but boggycreekbeast has been doing this in the field with all natural material for a few years now.

 

[Tiley]

That's looks like another worthwhile technique for lighting a fire. Yes, you may need two flat surfaces for the rolling/ember creation but that's not totally impossible. An interesting addition - many thanks for posting.

 

[Philster]

Cool - never seen this before. Seems like a lot less effort than other friction methods if you can find suitable materials

 

[Scottmathis]

Cool - never seen this before. Seems like a lot less effort than other friction methods if you can find suitable materials

Less effort definitely. Tim (boggycreekbeast) says this is a complement to other methods. He still practices other methods but states this is by far the easiest. I have seen him make embers in under 1 second. Although he shuns the notion of speed he has video's to back this up. He likes to practice in nature and routinely uses rolling surfaces that require no preparation i.e. Tree Bark, Stones or combinations of those two. Stones: [video=youtube;RRrph4aK0Bw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRrph4aK0Bw[/video]
Tree Bark : [video=youtube;Oruoqsqa0lk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oruoqsqa0lk[/video]