Eucalyptus... Food safe?

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Mesquite

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Went out to inspect a job today to find that contractors had cut down several trees in preperation to contractors coming in to start building a play area.

The trees cut down were Ash, Sycamore and 2 large Eucalyptus trees. All the brash and wood have been left lying waiting for the contractors to come in and dump it :eek: I'll be back to get some of it but there's piles of wood lying everywhere but it's a crying shame the rest is being dumped. If I only had a vehicle capable of shifting it all, and a fireplace to burn it in :rolleyes:

Anyway, what's Eucalyptus like for carving and is it food safe if I were to make some spoons etc?
 

eel28

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hi mesquite,
i would say its unsafe, any residue oil left in the wood could at its extreme cause breathing and/or heart collapse! but nice to carve :)

But is it not Eucalyptus oil that they put in "Tunes" and similar cold sweets to help your breathing???

Of course i could well be wrong
 

Hugo

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Yes the do, and I am going to cut down on that is growing too big in my back garden.. I planted it myself about seven years ago and it is starting to shade my solar panel. I'm going to store the wood for burning.
 

John Fenna

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Eucalypts were trialed by the FC before they settled on Spruce as the main invasive tree to plant all over the scenery.
In the Brechfa Forest in Wales you can still come across stands of them.....
 

Lordyosch

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Ray Mears used a transpiration bag on a eucalypt in the Walkabout series, said it was a good choice due to the low levels (or absence of) alkaloids (I think) in the leaves. dunno how much that means re the wood.
 

woodspirits

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safe? well i too would have thought so, then i read this so maybe not. gleaned from 'inteli health'

Potential Dangers


Allergies


There are several reports of allergic skin reactions occurring in people using eucalyptus oil products on their skin. Laboratory tests have shown that people with asthma or other allergies may be more likely to have a reaction to eucalyptus. An herbal survey found that 12 percent of asthmatic patients use eucalyptus. Ironically, eucalyptus may cause allergic reactions and may exacerbate asthma. It has been reported that rhinoconjunctivitis and vocal cord dysfunction worsen within minutes of an exposure to eucalyptus.


Side Effects


Eucalyptus should not be taken by mouth unless under the careful supervision of a licensed health care professional. There have been numerous cases of toxicity with oral use, including vomiting, stomach pains, seizures, abnormal heart rhythms, bleeding, coma and death.


In animals, eucalyptus oil has been shown to lower blood sugar levels. It is not clear if these effects occur in humans.


When used on the skin, rashes and burning have been reported.


When used in baths or as aromatherapy, prolonged use has caused difficulty breathing, drowsiness and dizziness. Skin irritation has also been reported.


A strain of bacteria found on eucalyptus may cause infection. Worsening of asthma and rhinoconjunctivitis has been reported.


Cardiovascular collapse and multi-organ failure have been reported following a massive ingestion of mouthwash containing phenolic compounds (eucalyptol, menthol, thymol).


Pregnancy And Breast-Feeding


All forms of eucalyptus oil should be avoided by pregnant or breast-feeding women because of its known toxicity. It is not clear if eucalyptus oil is passed to babies through breast milk, but there have been cases of infant deaths from taking eucalyptus oil by mouth.




Interactions


Interactions with drugs, supplements and other herbs have not been thoroughly studied. The interactions listed below have been reported in scientific publications. If you are taking prescription drugs, speak with your health care provider or pharmacist before using herbs or dietary supplements.


Interactions With Drugs


Eucalyptus oil taken by mouth, applied to the skin or used as aromatherapy may increase the amount of drowsiness caused by some drugs. Examples include benzodiazepines, such as lorazepam (Ativan); barbiturates, such as phenobarbital; narcotics, such as codeine; and alcohol. Caution is advised while driving or operating machinery. There is evidence that eucalyptus may interfere with the way the liver breaks down certain drugs. As a result, eucalyptus may cause the levels of these drugs in the body to be too high, leading to serious side effects.


In animals, eucalyptus oil has been shown to lower blood sugar levels. Caution is advised if you are also taking drugs that may lower blood sugar levels. Patients taking oral drugs for diabetes or using insulin should be monitored closely by their health care provider while taking eucalyptus oil. Dosing adjustments may be necessary. Use of aromatherapy for long periods of time may also cause this reaction. The drug 5-fluorouracil may be more absorbed through the skin when applied with eucalyptus oil. If you are taking 5-fluorouracil for a skin condition, speak with your health care provider or pharmacist before you also use eucalyptus oil.


Interactions With Herbs And Dietary Supplements


Eucalyptus oil taken by mouth, applied to the skin or used as aromatherapy may increase the amount of drowsiness caused by some herbs or supplements, such as valerian. Caution is advised while driving or operating heavy machinery. Eucalyptus oil may lower blood sugar levels. Oral use or use as aromatherapy for long periods of time should be avoided in people taking other agents that lower blood sugar levels, such as bitter melon (Momordica charantia). In theory, eucalyptus oil may increase the blood levels of herbs broken down by the liver, such as chasteberry (Vitex agnus-castus). Eucalyptus oil may increase the effects of plants that contain chemicals called pyrrolizidine alkaloids, such as comfrey (Symphytum officinale).
 
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Laurentius

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If you looked at it seriously you would never add any common kitchen herb to your cookpot.

Parsley, Sage, Rosemary and Thyme, better get yourself off to the emergency department and still risk the long term effects of psychosis :)
 

smoggy

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I've got a Euc to remove from my mothers garden, same as above, planted a few years back and now dominates the place! It's going to be a long job in a confined space, but should keep me in fuel for a year or more!

The above "inteli health" quote surely refers to euc oils and medicines which are distilled, and although some may have an alergic reaction, it's unlikely to be severe from the wood although the laeves can be quite pungent!

As to the original question, regardless of it being safe, I don't think I woiuld want to make any utensil intended for food useage from a wood with an aroma like euc.......!
 
As kids we were taught to break and roll up the leaves from the peeling bark eucalyptus tree (the really tall ones with the white skins and long thin leaves) and stick them up our noses when we had a cold - it helped clear stuffy noses, although we were not leave them up there too long as they could irritate the insides of our noses. We were also freely allowed to play with the seeds of the tree, but were advised not to eat them, as they could cause 'bad tums'.

The eucalyptus family is rather a large one. Usually the Gunnii variety (with the pretty round leaves) is grown in the UK as a garden shrub, as I have noticed).

Just as you have edible laurels (Bay Tree) and inedible laurels there will be some eucalyptus which are worse for allergies then others. If you are really concerned, find out the particular species of eucalyptus you are taling about - then look it up and act accordingly.

Just as a matter of interest, some people smoke from pipes made of eucalyptus wood.
 

badgeringtim

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hmm just made a kuska for a little un out of the stuff, he isa little prone to allergies though so maybe best not...
It did carve nice although a bit knotty.
Bum should have looked here first!!

hmph
 

SouthernCross

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G'day Mesquite

....Anyway, what's Eucalyptus like for carving and is it food safe if I were to make some spoons etc?
There is more than one species of Eucalypt (at least there is here in Australia :D )

Most of the oil in all Eucalypts are in the leaves.

I assume you are talking about using limbs / trunk for carving.

My question to you is; are you intending to use green or seasoned wood?

Green limbs / trunk won't have much Eucalyptus oil in them.

Seasoned limbs (ie dried out) will have virtually no oil in them (after all, Eucalyptus oil is volatile, i.e. it will evaporate in the seasoning process :D ).

I have been using seasoned Eucalypts limbs for spoons / stirrers that have seen use to prepared camp meals for several decades now.

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Not to mention the hundreds (if not thousands) of meals I have cooked over campfires that burn seasoned Eucalyptus wood.

I can't honestly say that I have noticed any adverse effects :D , however others on the internet over the years may disagree with this :eek: lol




Kind regards
Mick
 

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