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'Dogs as alternatives to knives'
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There are about 8 million dogs in the UK.
There are possibly a few thousand dependency culture thugs who abuse dogs for their own ends.
So, in order to look as if they are doing something, 8 million people are going to be inconvenienced by HMG. The thugs will, as usual, ignore any laws or restrictions.
Old folks who have a dog for company; "Dogs for...." users; field sports dogs users; agility dog enthusiasts etc etc, will all be put to extra expense and bureaucratic twaddle.
For the record, my own dogs are fully comprehensively insured and chipped because I chose to.
There are possibly a few thousand dependency culture thugs who abuse dogs for their own ends.
So, in order to look as if they are doing something, 8 million people are going to be inconvenienced by HMG. The thugs will, as usual, ignore any laws or restrictions.
Old folks who have a dog for company; "Dogs for...." users; field sports dogs users; agility dog enthusiasts etc etc, will all be put to extra expense and bureaucratic twaddle.
For the record, my own dogs are fully comprehensively insured and chipped because I chose to.
I understand the whole 'the majority suffers because of an idiotic minority' argument Mike.
What would you do about it though? I'm genuinely asking
A lot of folks on here live in the country and generally don't have to put up with chav types who breed/keep dogs just to be macho or even fight them. But a lot of us live in towns and cities and this is a big concern. Our kids have to share the local parks with d***heads and their beefed up snarling dogs.
For the record Staffies are my favourite breed as I grew up with them and I think Pit Bulls are a lovely breed. Very misunderstood and abused IMO
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Utter genius - your EDC (Every Day Canine) would be a winner, get cracking with the eugenics programme...
The innocent have nothing to fear. That is except the government who seem to be going out of their way to criminalise the innocent in every damn way possible...
i think what this boils down to is the governments disrespect of us as a people, they don't believe there's anyone out there with any common sense anymore anyone who's decent. i'm half inclined to agree sometimes when you see the state of the ignorant types that roam the streets. however, i know there's a hard core of decent people in this country and we get stiffed by all these ridiculous laws and silly scaremongering.
look at the last time the tories were in, how many civil liberties were effected? (granted it was our wallets that were effected) now look at what labour have done, we can't take pictures of buildings in the street, anything gun or knife shaped is going to send you to either jail or the morgue, owning a dog will soon require you to have insurance just incase it mauls someone (chiuaua would be hilarious for quotations) i can go on and on and on. its sickening not to mention riding the economy into the ground like slim pickins riding the nuke in dr strangelove...
bugger it, the gov't has no respect for me, thats fine the feelings mutual.
i think compare the meerkat will soon branch out to dogs mind, talk about money maker.
i think what this boils down to is the governments disrespect of us as a people, they don't believe there's anyone out there with any common sense anymore anyone who's decent. i'm half inclined to agree sometimes when you see the state of the ignorant types that roam the streets. however, i know there's a hard core of decent people in this country and we get stiffed by all these ridiculous laws and silly scaremongering.
look at the last time the tories were in, how many civil liberties were effected? (granted it was our wallets that were effected) now look at what labour have done, we can't take pictures of buildings in the street, anything gun or knife shaped is going to send you to either jail or the morgue, owning a dog will soon require you to have insurance just incase it mauls someone (chiuaua would be hilarious for quotations) i can go on and on and on. its sickening not to mention riding the economy into the ground like slim pickins riding the nuke in dr strangelove...
bugger it, the gov't has no respect for me, thats fine the feelings mutual.
i think compare the meerkat will soon branch out to dogs mind, talk about money maker.
I understand the whole 'the majority suffers because of an idiotic minority' argument Mike.
What would you do about it though? I'm genuinely asking
A lot of folks on here live in the country and generally don't have to put up with chav types who breed/keep dogs just to be macho or even fight them. But a lot of us live in towns and cities and this is a big concern. Our kids have to share the local parks with d***heads and their beefed up snarling dogs.
For the record Staffies are my favourite breed as I grew up with them and I think Pit Bulls are a lovely breed. Very misunderstood and abused IMO
I would use the law as it stands.
Get rid of "Targets" for the Police and get their pen pushers out on the street.
Zero tolerance for threatening behaviour; assault; causing fear and alarm, all using dogs.
While they're at it they can clamp down on all the other anti social activity that takes the pleasure out of living in a city.
Dead easy to solve the problem. You are responsible for your dog. Thats it. If your dog does it - its no different in law than if you had done it. If someone owns a dog that kills someone, the law treats it as if the owner had done it.
That's what happens if I abuse any of my possessions. I choose to own a rifle. If it causes injury through my act or failure to act, I am responsible. Why would it be different for a dog I choose to own than a gun I choose to own? If I cause another to suffer through action or neglect, I am responsible. If no one suffers, no problem.
Simple.
If we just make people accountable for the things they do, own, and ignore, life is easy again.
Red
That's what happens if I abuse any of my possessions. I choose to own a rifle. If it causes injury through my act or failure to act, I am responsible. Why would it be different for a dog I choose to own than a gun I choose to own? If I cause another to suffer through action or neglect, I am responsible. If no one suffers, no problem.
Simple.
If we just make people accountable for the things they do, own, and ignore, life is easy again.
Red
What did really annoy me this morning was the lack of distinction between size and attitude of dog ("all big dogs must be kept on leads at all times") with no regard to breed and training; and some sort of belief that a dog is only "under control" when it's muzzled and on a lead. My labs are perfectly under control and don't even have collars (OK, so I appreciate that's technically illegal, but a collar is a danger in thick bushes etc). I can get them back at the blow of a whistle. That's under control by my reckoning.
Didn't his parents ever tell him don't pat or approach any dog unknown to you?
A dog likely to harm a person should be put down if untrainable. End of.
Folk that have grown up with dogs, know a dog must know his place, for the dog's benefit and everyone else's.
It's usually the owners fault (or previous owner's if a rescued dog) if a dog turns out to be anti social, though some of the smaller breeds are notoriously nippy, yappy and not so easily trained.
Owning a dog is a resonsibility that chavs and inner city scum can't handle and yet we all are tarred by the same brush.
Dog/Owner training should be compulsory when collecting a new dog from kennels, pounds, rescue centres etc. Only after completeing this should the prospective owner be allowed to have the dog on a permanent basis.
The dog I've got, I rescued from an arrse who couldn't control it. With me it's been fine and is a totally different dog.
I grew up with sheep dogs and around dogs so I've been lucky, not everyone has had a background growing up with dogs, so a course would help.
Don't get me wrong I've been ripped by other's dogs over the years and it isn't pleasant.
Hahahhaaaaa
Too late, they're called Chihuahuas.
There is NEVER a valid reason to carry a Chihuahua. The police will be instructed to confiscate said dogs if found in the possession of a wannabe WAG as on the grounds that they are offensive.
I want that made into a law. Ugg boots, pink velour tracksuits and sunglasses that could be used by a welder should also be confiscated.
BOD
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My dog is there to threaten and intimidate anyone who enters my house and fenced garden.
With knife/machete robberies commonplace in this country and just meters from our front gate the innocent as well as the crims ought to stay clear.
While others are often burgled we have never had any trouble in years.
An innocent lad made the mistake the other day of sticking his arm through the gate to open the latch and was bitten.
I feel sorry for him but he ought to have known better.
With knife/machete robberies commonplace in this country and just meters from our front gate the innocent as well as the crims ought to stay clear.
While others are often burgled we have never had any trouble in years.
An innocent lad made the mistake the other day of sticking his arm through the gate to open the latch and was bitten.
I feel sorry for him but he ought to have known better.
The worst bit is that these so-called 'status' dogs so often end up carried in Prada handbags. Carrying a concealed mutt is an even worse offence.
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