MikeDB said:Nice, arn't they
Mike
Can you tell me which one is which? I really like the look of the last couple - right size....!!
Thanks,
Phil
Deja vu with the Woodlore
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Can you tell me which one is which? I really like the look of the last couple - right size....!!
Thanks,
Phil
The names are on the blade 
The Idun is the smallest, next up is the Frej
I think the Idun is the better of the smaller models as the Frej only has a small section of spine that is good for a fire steel, although the more pointed tip of the Frej makes some carving jobs easier. All the Northern Light series are gorgeous and if you put a little Kiwi Neutral on the handles they actually glow!
Here they are with other Fallknivens for scale. The none NL are a Micarta F1 and a A1
These were done with the Thor
The Idun is the smallest, next up is the Frej
I think the Idun is the better of the smaller models as the Frej only has a small section of spine that is good for a fire steel, although the more pointed tip of the Frej makes some carving jobs easier. All the Northern Light series are gorgeous and if you put a little Kiwi Neutral on the handles they actually glow!
Here they are with other Fallknivens for scale. The none NL are a Micarta F1 and a A1
These were done with the Thor
Hey Red is that seriously his real name (see above in bold) or a hot contender for unintentional but highly amusing typo for 2007British Red said:
I bet his coffins cost a fortune in burr Walnut 
Silverback said:
It's Freudian.
Best regards,
Paul.
(I'm unbearable...hopefully, for a while yet
)
Silverback said:As I spotted it first can I have a free knife
Quite possibly, SB. But not from me, I'm not the knife maker in question
My post was just a tease Best regards,
Paul.
jamesoconnor said:
Got to agree with James. Used a woodlore a few times, not extensively mind you but enough to get a feel for it and I conclude the Outback I've just got from Paul is every bit its equal.
M
Silverback said:Then for your overly quick wittedness the distribution of my free knife falls down to you
OK, for my sins, I accept the forfeit
If you PM me with an address, Ill send you a Victorinox Pioneer that I dont use (like the one here but without the key ring http://www.swissarmy.com/MultiTools/Product.htm?category=everyday&product=53960&)
Best regards,
Paul.
Forgive me for asking, but what makes a "woodlore" so special compared with all the other types of knives?
oetzi said:
The blade is rather thick, and the profile of the blade is parallel until the rather high, perfectly flat, cutting edge bevel. This makes the blade very strong, even at the tip, as there is no distal taper, and the angle of the grind combined with the thickness of the blade, makes it unlikely that the cutting edge will roll or chip. Also the spear point was a fairly rare shape before its recent popularity. The centrally place point has a nice, precise feel to it (popular with wood carvers).
To me its more of a robust wood working tool, than say, a hunting knife/fighting knife, and as such is regarded as a non-aggressive tool.
And the large flat grind is said to be easier to sharpen in the field over other types of grind (because it doesnt need a sharpening system to maintain a small, factory applied grind that might be found, for instance, on a blade with a full height, flat grind with a small secondary bevel at the cutting edge).
The design makes it a good all-rounder, and is regarded by some as the best of all compromises.
This would be my view.
Best regards,
Paul.
You guys might want to consider this knife;
It's a Buck Vanguard model that is specially made for sale by Cabelas in their Alaskan Guide series of knives. It has a 4-1/8" (105 mm) drop point blade of S30V that has been both heat and cryo tempered. It has a rosewood handle with brass fittings and a leather sheath. Furthermore, unlike many custom knives, the price isn't in the stratosphere. It's US$95 which is about 48 or 49 pounds in UK money and about 73 or 74 Euros.
http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/t...rid=&parentType=&indexId=cat600798&hasJS=true
It's a Buck Vanguard model that is specially made for sale by Cabelas in their Alaskan Guide series of knives. It has a 4-1/8" (105 mm) drop point blade of S30V that has been both heat and cryo tempered. It has a rosewood handle with brass fittings and a leather sheath. Furthermore, unlike many custom knives, the price isn't in the stratosphere. It's US$95 which is about 48 or 49 pounds in UK money and about 73 or 74 Euros.
http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/t...rid=&parentType=&indexId=cat600798&hasJS=true
Maybe I misunderstood you oztei, when you wrote woodlorein your post. I took it that you meant a Woodlore type of knife (full tang, spear point, with a Nordic grind and no distal taper).
I was describing the type of design features that can be found on a wide variety of copies of the Ray Mears/Alan Wood knife as well as the Woodlore knife itself.
I own a version of that design that was made by ghubch (Steve Cox), and I can vouch for the high quality of the blade (I bought a very reasonably priced kit). Its an excellent tool.
I dont own a Woodlore knife, by the way.
Best regards,
Paul.
I was describing the type of design features that can be found on a wide variety of copies of the Ray Mears/Alan Wood knife as well as the Woodlore knife itself.
I own a version of that design that was made by ghubch (Steve Cox), and I can vouch for the high quality of the blade (I bought a very reasonably priced kit). Its an excellent tool.
I dont own a Woodlore knife, by the way.
Best regards,
Paul.
MrOstov,
I understand from Longstrider that Cabelas point blank refuse to send any knives to the UK, claiming that it is illegal for them to export "weapons".
This information was obtained when Longstrider tried to get one of the Buck 110 folders in S30V.
In anycase, when someone is looking for a scandi ground, full tang, almost guardless, carbon steel knife with natural wood...
Sorry man, I couldn't resist! I know things have drifted a bit from the original premise, and its no different from bringing in the Fallkniven range, there are a lot of good knives out there other than Woodlore clones. Personally I like the Vanguard design as a hunting knife, and in S30V it should be great! My memory of the last one I handled though didn't really do it for me with views to a bushcraft knife that would mainly be used for carving and cutting wood. For my money the hollow grind, handle shape, and long ricasso work against it in that role.
Continuing the off topic theme. I handled one of these
not long ago, from http://www.mikesknives.co.uk and was REALLY impressed with the fit, finish, feel and sharpness. Smaller and handier than the Woodlore, thinner stock, it was in my opinion superior to, say, Bison bushcrafters, or the BCFK. Not such a secure grip as on a Woodlore style knife due to the lack of sculpting, but quite comfortable nontheless. It is more than the £120 though
I understand from Longstrider that Cabelas point blank refuse to send any knives to the UK, claiming that it is illegal for them to export "weapons".
This information was obtained when Longstrider tried to get one of the Buck 110 folders in S30V.In anycase, when someone is looking for a scandi ground, full tang, almost guardless, carbon steel knife with natural wood...
...a knife with a hollow grind, hidden tang, brass guard and pommel, super stainless blade and laminated wood handle isn't likely to fill the bill
Sorry man, I couldn't resist! I know things have drifted a bit from the original premise, and its no different from bringing in the Fallkniven range, there are a lot of good knives out there other than Woodlore clones. Personally I like the Vanguard design as a hunting knife, and in S30V it should be great! My memory of the last one I handled though didn't really do it for me with views to a bushcraft knife that would mainly be used for carving and cutting wood. For my money the hollow grind, handle shape, and long ricasso work against it in that role.Continuing the off topic theme.
I handled one of these
not long ago, from http://www.mikesknives.co.uk and was REALLY impressed with the fit, finish, feel and sharpness. Smaller and handier than the Woodlore, thinner stock, it was in my opinion superior to, say, Bison bushcrafters, or the BCFK. Not such a secure grip as on a Woodlore style knife due to the lack of sculpting, but quite comfortable nontheless. It is more than the £120 though
May I ask how the Woodlore knife is controversial? I mean, other than the insane price tag attached to it what does it do that a Mora knife doesn't? Is the steel better? The grind superior? The construction done to a higher quality? I understand that it is endorsed by His Royal Highness Raymond Mears aka. The Donut King, and that that may be a factor in the price but still, how is the knife itself controversial?
Curious,
Adam
Curious,
Adam
The knife isn't controversial. The controversy is whether it is really the "Best" bushcraft knife, or whether it is just popular because of the profile of Ray and Woodlore. I hardly think even that is all that much of a controversy. The general concensus seems to be that, yes, its good at what it was designed to do, but that there is no such things as a perfect knife and tastes vary.
As for comparing it to a plastic Mora What is that about I mean, what is the point of trying to compare a mass produced, plastic handled cheapie knife against any high end factory or hand made knife. There are so many differences that a comparison seems pretty meaningless. You might as well start comparing Granny Smiths and Comice Pears.
As for comparing it to a plastic Mora
What is that about I mean, what is the point of trying to compare a mass produced, plastic handled cheapie knife against any high end factory or hand made knife. There are so many differences that a comparison seems pretty meaningless. You might as well start comparing Granny Smiths and Comice Pears.
I agree, it's not possible to perform a direct comparison between a Mora and a Woodlore (WS or AW).
It's a lot of money for a knife for sure but it's a serious knife, I would say it's over engineered somewhat but that's no criticism! Also, when it comes to the market value, it drives me bonkers to see people ranting like it's Ran Mears' fault or the knives fault.
People will try and get what they can when selling something and people will pay what they want.
I personally have an AW Woodlore and it's brilliant for me... my girlfriend hates it though... the woodie was expensive at £225 but I just spent £325 on a new knife for my girlfriend to use... go on, flame me, I dare ya
It's a lot of money for a knife for sure but it's a serious knife, I would say it's over engineered somewhat but that's no criticism! Also, when it comes to the market value, it drives me bonkers to see people ranting like it's Ran Mears' fault or the knives fault.
People will try and get what they can when selling something and people will pay what they want.
I personally have an AW Woodlore and it's brilliant for me... my girlfriend hates it though... the woodie was expensive at £225 but I just spent £325 on a new knife for my girlfriend to use... go on, flame me, I dare ya
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